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overheating resistors

dirtdiver
dirtdiver over 13 years ago

Hi, im using the arduino to turn on a relay and complete a curcuit connecting the USB to a curcuit like this one :

 

    The IR's are TSHA203  , 100mA , Vr -5V, 180mW,image

Now one thig i dont understand is how 5 * 0.1 = 0.5 W and not 0.18 W, so I assumed that it could work on lower values like 2 volts or 50 mA and these are the maximum ones.

...But i guess i was wrong couse the resistors are overheating.Can you guys point me in the right direction?

Thanks!

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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 13 years ago +1
    You need to ask yourself "Do I need to drive with 100ma or not?". 100ma is the maximum non pulsed current allowed. As you already know, then the resistors need to dissipate about 500 mW. If the answer…
  • billabott
    billabott over 13 years ago +1
    Having watched this YouTube Video in order to learn what a "freetrack helmet" is; I have a suggestion in the form of a question. Why not use a single LED and 3 bundles of optical fiber(s)? These LEDs:…
  • R_Phoenix
    R_Phoenix over 13 years ago in reply to dirtdiver +1
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    dirtdiver over 13 years ago

    P.S. with the Vr=5V , so if that is the maxi Voltage , i wont need a resistor, so is it? image ..I cant even find the datasheet

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    R_Phoenix over 13 years ago in reply to dirtdiver

    Vr is reverse voltage max, and yes - you do need the resitor.

     

    I will assume the voltage drop of the Ir's is about 2 volts, so that leaves 3 volts droped across the resistor, so 3v / 30r = 100ma, 100ma * 3v = 300mw. What size are your resistors? For this they will need to be a half watt (half  500 mw and 1/4 is 250 mw). So I can see why they may be over heating.

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    dirtdiver over 13 years ago in reply to R_Phoenix

    well my resistors are 0.25 W .. I will get 0.5 W tomorrow. thanks for the help!

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    dirtdiver over 13 years ago in reply to R_Phoenix

    well my resistors are 0.25 W .. I will get 0.5 W tomorrow. thanks for the help!

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    Nate1616 over 13 years ago in reply to dirtdiver

    did upping the resistor wattage help you dirtdriver?

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    dirtdiver over 13 years ago in reply to Nate1616

    i just tried it with .5W and they are still verry hot.I just don't see the reason!

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  • fustini
    fustini over 13 years ago in reply to dirtdiver

    Curious, have you measured the voltage drop across the resistors and LEDs individually?

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  • R_Phoenix
    R_Phoenix over 13 years ago in reply to dirtdiver

    Then you will need to accurately calculate the V drop (measure it with a meter) across the IR, and the Resistor. Each group should be close to the same. Then calculate the current draw of each to get the watts being dissipated by the resistors.

     

    quick calculations say that the v drop on the Ir should be around 1.7v so you should be using a 33 ohm resistor, but I bet a 100 ohm would work fine if you have some handy to try.

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    dirtdiver over 13 years ago in reply to R_Phoenix

    Each one should be the same? why?

    I measured it and its like this:

    image

    I gues the USB port isnt exactly 5 volts

    so 3.9 /30 = 130mA, 3.9*130=507mW

    oh man 7 mW above the max and the resistors are capable of cooking my dinner image

    its back to the store then..and again thanks for the help!

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    R_Phoenix over 13 years ago in reply to dirtdiver

    dirtdiver wrote:

     

    Each one should be the same? why?

    Each group, so each resitor should meassure 3.9 v drop, assumeing each resistor is identical. And each Ir should messure 1.7, again assuming they are the same values. IN your first drawing you have 3 in parallel.

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    dirtdiver over 13 years ago in reply to R_Phoenix

    oh, yeah ok image i thought that you meant the IR and the resistor should have the same Vdrop, in my case they are identical so all 3 readings are the same

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    dirtdiver over 13 years ago in reply to dirtdiver

    yes i am powering it off of the USB port, but isnt it drawing as much current as it needs (i thought that its ok as long as i dont draw more current that it can provide)

    And isnt that the resistors job here- to limit the current , how to limit the current going trough the resistor?

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    R_Phoenix over 13 years ago in reply to dirtdiver

    dirtdiver wrote:

     

    And isnt that the resistors job here- to limit the current , how to limit the current going trough the resistor?

    Yes, you are limiting the current the LED is allowed to draw.

     

    dirtdiver wrote:

     

    well if I use a 120ohm resistor the current going trought the LED will be about 20mA , right?

    then .25mW resistors are perfect?

    Give it a try and see image

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    dirtdiver over 13 years ago in reply to R_Phoenix

    it seems to be rowking fine with .25W, 150 ohm resistors.Its not as bright as before image but i hope it does the trick (im making  "freetrack helmet")

    if it doesnt work i will try the 1W 30 ohm resistors and see if they preform better.But for now im happy about the fact that im powering the leds form a usb port and the computer is still on image

    Thanks for the help!

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