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Creating DuPont equivalent crimp terminal

Andrew J
Andrew J over 6 years ago

What’s the generic term for the single pin crimp terminal to stick on the end of a wire in order to push into an Arduino header socket?  I’m used to the term Dupont connector but this isn’t a search term recognised by Farnell or CPC and there seems to be a fair mix of crimp terminals that may or may not be correct.

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  • dougw
    dougw over 6 years ago +8 suggested
    They are crimp sockets in rectangular housings but there are many terms used by different manufacturers and distributors. Consequently they are difficult to find, even though they are very common and almost…
  • fmilburn
    fmilburn over 6 years ago +8 suggested
    I have recently started crimping my own and have some Amphenol as well as inexpensive Chinese pins and sockets. I have the crimper that Shabaz linked above and like it. The Amphenol work well. The Chinese…
  • shabaz
    shabaz over 6 years ago +7 suggested
    Hi Andrew, I think it's just called a crimp socket, or a 0.1" SIL socket crimp terminal. Anyway, a typical one is this crimp socket crimp socket , it fits the 0.1" SIL pin headers on the Arduino. There…
  • dougw
    0 dougw over 6 years ago in reply to Andrew J

    The series I linked above is Amphenol Mini PV

    pin 47792-003LF47792-003LF

    socket 75231-013LF

    housing 65039-036LF65039-036LF

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    There are other parts in the series - check which you need.

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  • shabaz
    0 shabaz over 6 years ago in reply to Andrew J

    Hi Andrew,

     

    I've not used these before, but your insulation area looks good (it should terminate near the red line marking below), the wire portion should terminate at the yellow line portion though it seems (I could be wrong).

     

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  • Andrew J
    0 Andrew J over 6 years ago in reply to dougw

    Thanks Douglas

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    0 Andrew J over 6 years ago in reply to shabaz

    I think you're right looking at it that close up.  The spring at the end is meant to depress when the pin is pushed into the receptacle, and it won't be able to with the wires there.

     

    I've ordered some thinner wire and more connectors, as well as the pin connectors you mentioned.  It's not surprising that I don't know what I actually need until I find myself thinking it's all well and good but how am I going to connect this to that.  Fortunately, I'm busy again this week so can't really get back to my project until Thursday.

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    0 fmilburn over 6 years ago in reply to neilk

    Shabaz and Doug are giving good advice below.  What I have observed is the Chinese ones are made for an automated crimping machine while the Amphenol came loose.  DSub pins also work well in my tool. The tabs that hold insulation on the Chinese ones are too wide to fit the die in my crimping tool without bending them a bit and that is a fiddly task and somewhat prone to bad connections.

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    0 neilk over 6 years ago in reply to fmilburn

    Thanks, Frank

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  • shabaz
    0 shabaz over 5 years ago

    Hi Andrew,

     

    Just to add to the list of compatible pins, here's another crimp pin which which fits breadboards: Molex C-Grid series, such as part code 16-02-010716-02-0107

    however it is 4mm longer physically, compared to the TE EI series pinTE EI series pin. That EI connector option is highest on my list personally, because it is the lowest cost : )

     

    Also, I've found a great tool, but it involves hunting around on e-bay for a used one, in the hope that it becomes available cheaply.

     

    It is AMP 90202-2, mine came damaged (although the seller didn't mention that) obtained for £15, and a friend found one for £45, so that seems to be the span of reasonable prices maybe (however, the only current UK seller is offering it for £130 so that's not worth it).

    Despite the damage on mine (a metal part is wedged out, as if something is stuck inside the tool) it works really well and it doesn't seem to impact performance.

     

    I can take some photos of example crimps with it, but long story short, the results are stronger than the wire, and both insulation and wire are crimped together, it works for a decent range of wire and insulation thicknesses, and it's really easy, because it frees up a hand to feed the wire in, and there is a stop to ensure precise wire depth alignment. And it's fast. Although it is for AMP terminals, I have tried it with the C-Grid pins, and also with Multicomp 2226TG2226TG sockets and the result is better than ready-made jumper wires. This tool is not suitable for (say) typical JST ranges like PH or XH, but specifically for 2.54mm-pitch compatible pins and sockets, it's the best I've used so far. The tool looks quite strange.. but it's really cool : )

     

    A question I find myself asking, is at what point do the crimping methods become better than we need : ) To me, the HT-225DHT-225D for 2.54mm pins already produces results that excel ready-made jumper wires, and it's a low-cost tool. The AMP tool is better and is quicker to use, but had it been much more than £45 (and even that's pushing it) then (to me) it would not be worth it, for the few hundred crimps I do each year.

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    0 Andrew J over 5 years ago in reply to shabaz

    I have loads of these TE EI pins along with the multicomp you recommended which I've also used successfully with the Molex KK series pins.  That Amp tool looks a little strange and I would think like you £45 is pushing it. 

     

    Some people on eBay just try their luck.  I made a cheap 'punt' bid on a fully working Fluke 287 which when it came did work, but the batteries ran out in no time at all - the well known capacitor problem.  Because it's the 287 and under lifetime warranty I just sent it to Fluke who promptly binned it and sent me a brand new one in return!  £550 DMM for around £150.  That's customer service.

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  • shabaz
    0 shabaz over 5 years ago in reply to Andrew J

    Ah, great. You already have a decent tool!

    Regarding the meter, that's really awesome!

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  • BigG
    0 BigG over 2 years ago

    This post just saved me a lot of bitching and moaning about Farnell's website selection tool. Wow, Multicomp products are really good value. Happy days.

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