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Arduino and Transistors Question - RE: School Musical Production

wallarug
wallarug over 11 years ago

One of the directors has asked me to create a special backdrop for our college musical. This particular backdrop has a particular design (see below) that includes LED strip lighting to give the feel of a 1920s casino sign – similar to what is seen today in Las Vegas.

I  have done up a detailed design for this sign, based off the rough sketch given to me by the director and the dimensions of the backdrop.  On this diagram, the arrangement of the LED strip lighting can be seen.

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The LED Strip lighting that will be bought for this project will be sourced from Jaycar – “Low Cost 5m Flexible Adhesive LED Strip Light – Warm White” (ZD0577).  According to the specifications off Jaycar’s website, these LED lights need 1.1 Amps per metre @ 12 volts.  This means that the longest segments of lights need 1.1 * 1.5 = 1.65 Amps of power (rounded up by 20% for safety: 2.0 Amps @ 12 volts).

 

This would not be an issue if I was just turning these LED Strips on and off with mains power BUT I want to control these LEDs via an Arduino, so that they can do fancy things like flash and chase.  That means that I would need a circuit to control these lights with an Arduino so that everything remains safe and does not blow up.

I have come up with this circuit (below) using a couple of NPN transistors and two power supplies.  In the diagram below, I am aware that the transistor pinouts are EBC.  The ones I am going to buy have a pinout of BCE.

 

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The only problem with this is that I have very little understanding of transistor circuits.  What this circuit has to be able to do is:

  • Using the smallest amount of current from the Arduino (at 5 volts) or a Raspberry Pi (3v3 volts), turn on the circuit to allow the 12 volts that powers the LED strip lighting to flow.

 

I was thinking of using either TIP41C NPN Transistors (in a darlington Array) or TIP122 NPN transistors.

 

This circuit will be replicated 8 times over to accommodate for the number of LEDs I am controlling.

 

 

Can anyone help me:

  1. Design a circuit that will work 100% and will be safe (ie: low heat)
    1. This includes base resistance
  1. Confirm which transistors I should be using for this project.

 

Any help will be much appreciated.

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  • Robert Peter Oakes
    Robert Peter Oakes over 11 years ago +1
    Sorry the one I suggested wont work, but this one should http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=ZK8821 10+ current rating and at 0.016ohms it should be good for your needs pdf here http://www.vishay…
  • mcb1
    mcb1 over 11 years ago in reply to jw0752 +1
    John If you are referring to this It means that at a gate voltage of 1.6 typ, a current of 250uA will be flowing in the Drain. If you look here, you can see that from 3 to 3.3v will give you enough to…
  • D_Hersey
    D_Hersey over 11 years ago +1
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  • wallarug
    0 wallarug over 11 years ago

    Hey guys.  I think the below is the go, can you please let me know if there is any issues (I have NOT got the parts yet).

     

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    Note: The LED strip is represented by a single LED.

     

    Bread Board concept drawing based off pin outs of 2N7000 and IRF540N:

     

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    EDITED: 9:20pm 20th May 2014

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    0 wallarug over 11 years ago

    Hey guys.  I think the below is the go, can you please let me know if there is any issues (I have NOT got the parts yet).

     

    image

    Note: The LED strip is represented by a single LED.

     

    Bread Board concept drawing based off pin outs of 2N7000 and IRF540N:

     

    image


    EDITED: 9:20pm 20th May 2014

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    0 dougw over 11 years ago in reply to wallarug

    This configuration doesn't help the IRF540 turn on more completely, because the gate probably does not get to a high enough voltage and it might not turn off completely either. This is what you would do with bipolar transistors but not FETs.

    For FETs...

    To take full advantage of the 2N7000, its source should be grounded and its drain connected to the gate of the IRF540.

    To turn on the IRF540 completely, its gate should have a pull-up resistor to 12 V. Something like 4.7K should be adequate.

    This arrangement will invert your output signal - when low the LED strip will be on.

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  • wallarug
    0 wallarug over 11 years ago in reply to dougw


    I kind of understand what you are saying. Would you please be able to draw up a quick schematic showing what you talked about before??

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  • dougw
    0 dougw over 11 years ago in reply to wallarug

    image

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  • Problemchild
    0 Problemchild over 11 years ago in reply to dougw

    I think the Gate would  be pulled up ok Doug, just that in the off condition the gate would just kinda float there, not so clever !!

     

    Also this arrangement inverts the logic of the Arduino so to set the LEDs on you need a logic 0 on the  Arduino PIN and vice versa

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    0 Problemchild over 11 years ago in reply to dougw

    Good move with the CAD Doug

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    0 wallarug over 11 years ago in reply to dougw

    cool. So 2.2k resistor should be good??

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    0 Problemchild over 11 years ago in reply to wallarug

    I think you'll find it barely matters it's an order of magnitude thing. The Whole thing has a wide lattitude of working.

    Do not that the logic is inverted though!

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    0 wallarug over 11 years ago in reply to Problemchild

    ok, I will get back to you in the morning.

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    0 wallarug over 11 years ago in reply to Problemchild

    Hey John / Doug,

     

    1. How do I overcome the reversed logic or do I just live with it?

     

    2. Also, what program do you use to make the schematics?

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    0 dougw over 11 years ago in reply to wallarug

    You could add another 2N7000 (and a second pull-up resistor) in front of the first 2N7000 but it is cheaper to invert in software.

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