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xmos_support over 12 years ago

Download the latest development tools xTIMEcomposer and xSOFTip explorer for free. Check out the user forum - www.xcore.com . The Xcore community comprises experienced 3rd party users and XMOS engineering staff, and using this resource ensures that all XMOS technology users will benefit from the answer.

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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to morgaine +2
    Hi, The XMOS toolchains is built around various open source tools such as gdb, LLVM, eclipse, and binutils, and standard intermediate formats such as ELF and dwarf. Source tarballs for the open source…
  • morgaine
    morgaine over 11 years ago in reply to xmos_support +1
    XMOS Support wrote: We do have public documentation for enough stuff (architecture, ABI etc.) to create a toolchain. Have a look at the following projects for more details: http://www.xcore.com/projects…
  • morgaine
    morgaine over 11 years ago in reply to johnbeetem +1
    Thanks for the improved description, John! I hope your experience helps XMOS Support to understand my reasons for asking. It's not an "information wants to be free" kind of thing at all, but a desire that…
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  • morgaine
    morgaine over 11 years ago

    A short rummage around the Xcore site lead me to The XCore Open Source Project and the Xcore Github repo, which as an open source advocate, I found very encouraging.  I also noted the contributor's agreement  which goes beyond forking Github repos and allows developers to contribute more directly back to the company sources.  I see this as a sign that open source interest at Xcore is rather more substantial than the "throw code over the wall" kind of openness which is unfortunately common.

     

    Which leads me to a couple of questions:

     

    1. Is the impression I've gained above correct?
    2. Are XMOS devices fully documented so that OSHW communities can develop around these devices and create their own complete toolchains to program them?

     

    Question 2 relates to the uncomfortable situation we presently have with FPGA manufacturers, none of which provide complete programming information for their devices so that it has been impossible for the community to develop full toolchains for them.  This has effectively extinguished open source progress in that area.

     

    If the answer is "Yes" to both questions then this is going to be of interest to many.

     

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    Addendum:  I had asked about unit availability earlier too, but the answer was right here at Farnell UK, 6 different devices all in stock!  Excellent!

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 11 years ago in reply to morgaine

    I hadn't realized Farnell stock XMOS but they do, which is great. I've never had a chance to look into it, but for many years they've had some reasonably priced demo kits, a nice range of parts and also they maintain a great library of code for different use-cases. They're based in the UK. From a quick look their documentation looks ok (not outstandingly spectacular 1000-page volumes like Freescale or TI - that would be a hard thing to exceed) but it looked good enough. Very interesting :-)

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  • johnbeetem
    johnbeetem over 11 years ago in reply to shabaz

    shabaz wrote:

     

    I hadn't realized Farnell stock XMOS but they do, which is great. I've never had a chance to look into it, but for many years they've had some reasonably priced demo kits, a nice range of parts and also they maintain a great library of code for different use-cases. They're based in the UK. From a quick look their documentation looks ok (not outstandingly spectacular 1000-page volumes like Freescale or TI - that would be a hard thing to exceed) but it looked good enough. Very interesting :-)

    I'm not impressed by 1000-page tomes (4593 pages for TI's "AM335x ARM Cortex-A8 Microprocessors (MPUs) Technical Reference Manual" rev C).  I like well-organized shorter manuals written by people who actually print hard copy every now and then.  We had shorter manuals when the vendors gave away hard copies image

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  • Problemchild
    Problemchild over 11 years ago in reply to johnbeetem

    I think when you are paying for the paper the urge to "cut and Paste" is MUCH less image

     

    The Documentation for the XMOS stufff is normally clear and short, I have found the tech support

    to be very useful as well.

     

    All and all the hardrealtime of the XMOS potentially saves a load of brain ache as an alternative

    to an FPGA solution!

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  • Problemchild
    Problemchild over 11 years ago in reply to shabaz

    I had mentioned to some Farnell guys about getting these devices but i never noticed them "arrive" thanks for pointing it out ..Should be easier than getting them from places I probably shouldnt mention image

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    Problemchild over 11 years ago in reply to shabaz

    I had mentioned to some Farnell guys about getting these devices but i never noticed them "arrive" thanks for pointing it out ..Should be easier than getting them from places I probably shouldnt mention image

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