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Basic circuit with relay

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Former Member over 11 years ago

Hi.

First of all: I hope this is the place to post.

 

I am gonna make an easy circuit with a relay to control a pump.(see attachment)

I understand the principal, but I wonder if there is anything more I gotto think of, like resistors or something?

 

It is not to be used in a car.

 

I am thinking of using an car relay: 12V, Max 30 amp.

The pump use 12V and 4 amp.

The fuse need to be 4 amp?

 

Can the switch for example be wired directly to pluss and minus on the car battery or do I need a  resistor there?

Thanks!

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    0 Former Member over 11 years ago

    I didn't really understand that either(English is not my native language).

    Could you make a new drawing with those diodes included where they should be?

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    0 Former Member over 11 years ago

    I didn't really understand that either(English is not my native language).

    Could you make a new drawing with those diodes included where they should be?

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    0 dougw over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    When the contacts in the switch or relay open, the inductance in the pump and relay coil will cause high voltage spikes which cause sparks between the contacts. With enough on/off cycles these sparks will eventually erode or burn the contacts.

    Snubber diodes short out the energy stored in the inductance when power is removed and eliminate the voltage spike. This is very important in circuits where a high voltage spike would damage the circuitry - in your circuit it is not essential but will reduce electrical noise and make the switching devices last longer.

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    0 Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to dougw

    Thanks again!

    Which kind of diode should I use? could you recommend some?

    I do understand enough to use it now, but I do wonder:

    When you turn off the pump, it will "produce" som ind. current, which will go to the relay or back into the pump?

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    0 D_Hersey over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    You paid for the electricity when you turned the pump on.  Have you ever plugged in a fan and seen a spark?  More likely when you unplugged it.  When you plug in an old stereo, the spark comes initially, 'cause it's a capacitive load.  There are two forms that analogize to mechanical inertia in electronics, magnetic and charge.

     

    Vishay VS-6TQ035 might be a good choice for your pump.

    1n914 would work to clamp the coil if it uses less than an ampere.

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    0 dougw over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Some other alternatives for diodes

    pump - 6A05-T from Diodes Inc

    relay - 1N4002 from Micro Commercial, Diodes Inc or any other mfr

     

    The inductive current spike will just recirculate through the diode and coil until it is dissipated as heat.

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