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Olimex A10S/A20-OLinuXino boards quite BBB-like

morgaine
morgaine over 12 years ago

I've gathered together some pieces of information on Olimex's latest Cortex-A* board range, which I think is an interesting one.

 

Allwinner's new A20 device has almost the same pinout as their old A10, so Olimex developed an A20 board very quickly by upgrading an earlier A10-based prototype with the new SoC.  They already had a different OLinuXino board based on the lower-cost A10S in early production, so the future A20 board is being positioned as a more capable version of this product.

 

This pair of boards have the product names A10S-OLinuXino-MICRO and A20-OLinuXino-MICRO, and Olimex's price list shows that each of these will also be available with 4GB of NAND flash on board, respectively named as A10S-OLinuXino-MICRO-4GB and A20-OLinuXino-MICRO-4GB.    Summary of the range:

 

 

SoCCoresARM Core
RAMProduct ModelPriceFeatures
A10S1Cortex-A8512MBA10S-OLinuXino-MICRO45 euro
A10S1Cortex-A8512MBA10S-OLinuXino-MICRO-4GB55 euroFlash
A202Cortex-A71GBA20-OLinuXino-MICRO55 euroSATA
A202Cortex-A71GBA20-OLinuXino-MICRO-4GB65 euroFlash, SATA

 

 

Note that there is more symmetry in the  product naming  than in the actual board layouts, as A10S and A20 boards are quite different to reflect the differences in their SoCs.

 

The NAND-less A10S-OLinuXino-MICRO [summary pdf] is already listed at Farnell UK, delivery projected for end of July, and development work on the A20-OLinuXino-MICRO seems to be progressing well.

 

The A10S-OLinuXino-MICRO-4GB is pretty similar to the BeagleBone Black (BBB) in several ways.  The A10S has a Cortex-A8 CPU just like the BBB's TI AM3359, and both are clocked at the same speed of 1GHz.  Both provide native Ethernet, not over USB.  Both boards offer 512MB of RAM.  Likewise both feature on-board embedded flash as well as sockets for external cards, although the OLinuXino has double the flash and two different card sockets.  Both provide HDMI for video output (the A10S's GPU is a MALI-400), although the OLinuXino also provides analogue audio input and output sockets.  Both provide roughly the same kind of expansion connector concept, ie. a connector on each of the opposing long edges of the board.  As usual on Olimex boards, the OLinuXino also provides a UEXT connector which allows Olimex's large range of expansion modules to be attached.

 

The above isn't intended to portray the A10S-OLinuXino-MICRO-4GB as "better" despite it having several extra features.  The BBB is quite a lot cheaper and provides stackable capes and the AM335x's exceptional PRUs, so it'll always be "horses for courses" between the two.  I do think that the two boards are close enough in features to be considered ballpark-similar.

 

The A20-OLinuXino-MICRO and -4GB version will be quite a significant step up from their A10S-based siblings.  The CPU is a dual-core Cortex-A7 (see the A20 and Allwinner family brief pdf and short A20 datasheet for more details), RAM is doubled to 1GB of DDR3, video output is through both HDMI and VGA, and SATA data and power connectors are provided.  For 55 to 65 Euro, I expect that Olimex are going to have a serious hit on their hands.

 

And the entire OLinuXino range is both open hardware and open software, give or take Allwinner's somewhat lacklustre understanding of the concept of documentation.  TI is way ahead on quality of open documentation for the BBB, except for its GPU which remains closed.  Apparently the open source Lima driver for the OLinuXino's MALI-400 is better than the Allwinner binary blob anyway, so at least for graphics support it might not matter much. image

 

Interesting times ahead.  I'm certainly keeping an eye open on Olimex, they're a very competent and extremely productive outfit.  Progress on their OLinuXino boards and other newsworthy developments are typically announced on their blog.

 

Morgaine.

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  • fustini
    fustini over 12 years ago in reply to morgaine +2
    That's a good question about the A9. I wonder if there will be or is a Sitara SoC part with that for which a similar low-cost board could be made (BeagleBone Graphene - early 2014? ). I'll see Jason in…
  • morgaine
    morgaine over 12 years ago +1
    The A10S-OLinuXino-MICRO isn't in the exceptionally low Raspberry Pi and BBB price niche, but it may be worth pointing out that this board has Raspberry Pi-like graphics and media capability (unlike the…
  • morgaine
    morgaine over 12 years ago +1
    Olimex has blogged instructions on building Linux for A10S from scratch . Since the A10S has a Cortex-A8 CPU like the BBB, these instructions and the linux-sunxi Github repositories to which they refer…
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  • morgaine
    morgaine over 12 years ago

    Come on Olimex, do you want my money for several A20-OLinuXinos or not?! image

     

    I'm really looking forward to replacing most of my power-guzzling x86 Internet servers by these frugal boards.

     

    PS. Farnell UK, you might as well start tempting us early by adding it to your product line as "Awaiting delivery", alongside the stocked A10S-OLinuXino.  It'll keep me visiting the ecommerce site in hope. and I'm sure I'm not the only such customer!

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    morgaine over 12 years ago

    Come on Olimex, do you want my money for several A20-OLinuXinos or not?! image

     

    I'm really looking forward to replacing most of my power-guzzling x86 Internet servers by these frugal boards.

     

    PS. Farnell UK, you might as well start tempting us early by adding it to your product line as "Awaiting delivery", alongside the stocked A10S-OLinuXino.  It'll keep me visiting the ecommerce site in hope. and I'm sure I'm not the only such customer!

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    Former Member over 12 years ago in reply to morgaine

    Morgaine Dinova wrote:

    and I'm sure I'm not the only such customer!

    You're not... I was just looking at the A10S board being in stock a couple of minutes ago, but would definately prefer an A20

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  • jamodio
    jamodio over 12 years ago in reply to Former Member

    The Cubieboard 2 is also based on the A20

     

    -J

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    Former Member over 12 years ago in reply to jamodio

    jamodio wrote:

     

    The Cubieboard 2 is also based on the A20

    I'd love one !   Unfortunately I can't find anywhere that has them in the UK and ordering internationally is enough extra hassle that I'll think twice about bothering image

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    Former Member over 12 years ago in reply to Former Member

    selsinork wrote:

    Unfortunately I can't find anywhere that has them in the UK

    http://www.coolcomponents.co.uk/catalog/cubieboard-p-1209.html is as close as I've found.  If anyone else knows of anywhere in the UK that has stock, please let me know !

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    Former Member over 12 years ago in reply to Former Member

    selsinork wrote:

     

    jamodio wrote:

     

    The Cubieboard 2 is also based on the A20

    I'd love one !

    I take that back.. this looks better http://cubieboard.org/2013/06/22/the-2nd-pcb-model-cubietruck-discussion/

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    Former Member over 12 years ago in reply to Former Member

    selsinork wrote:

     

    http://www.coolcomponents.co.uk/catalog/cubieboard-p-1209.html is as close as I've found.  If anyone else knows of anywhere in the UK that has stock, please let me know !

    They have a small qty of A20 cubieboards in stock now if anyone else is interested.

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    Former Member over 12 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Mine arrived today, some first thoughts here http://www.element14.com/community/thread/27190?tstart=0

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  • morgaine
    morgaine over 12 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Excellent!  Good move to leave this thread to the OLinuXinos, continuing about Cubieboard in your new thread.

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