Export Paperwork (End User Undertaking)

I believe it has to do with US Commerce Dept. export control regulations,

particularly implementing non-proliferation treaties.  There is a summary here:

https://www2.fin.ucar.edu/sites/default/files/essentials_of_export_controls_modules_1_6.pdf

Mark, was this something you had to agree to before you could complete the purchase ?  There was a similar post to yours some months ago complaining of strange requirements for buying a BBB.

Here in the UK I got a slip of paper stapled to the despatch note:

Order code 2291620 is ECCN 5A002.a.1.a of the EU Dual-Use list (EC Regulation No. 428/2009 - Annex 1) and requires export authorisation if exported outside the EU'.

but nothing to agree to up-front.  Interestingly you can buy a BBB from CPC who are part of Premier Farnell and you don't get any notice like this.  Also interesting in that you can buy things like the SL that would theoretically be far more useful in any of these supposed dual-use situations and get nothing at all...

I wonder if the embest version of the BBB that coder27 found would attract the same requirements considering it's built in china rather than by circuitco in the US ?

Gents

It seems to be a 'EU Export' paper and comes about because the AUS/NZ site is shipping it directly from the UK.

If they think only BBB is capable, then perhaps there are a few others as well.

The reality is anyone who was intending the 'undesirable' usage, is unlikely to fill it in correctly anyway.

Yes It needs to be completed before being despatched.

Cheers

Mark

Coder

Looking at that, its a wonder anything leaves the US at all.

Cheers

mark

Okay

So I asked the following question to element14 in Australia (also covers NZ)

Out of interest (and some on the element14 community forum).
If the boards are stocked in AUS, is the same export declaration required.

and received this reply

 

Even if we have stock in our AU warehouse we still require the End User form for our records. Also the International Trade Compliance team need to check the form and then approve it for Element14 to be able to send the goods.

It is a legal requirement that we have to comply with if we wish to sell certain parts.

 

So seems that BBB is different to RPi or many other single board computers ....

Mark

probably the difference is that BBB is made in the U.S.

Coder

Actually that would make sense.

The Texas Instrument downloads are similar, with those questions that any right minded hostile person is NOT going to answer properly.

Cheers

mark

coder27 wrote:

 

probably the difference is that BBB is made in the U.S.

so ship the embest version instead ?

so ship the embest version instead ?

Perhaps the Embest BBB is restricted to China like the Egoman RPi.  Don't know.

btw, for Egoman/RPi, China means "greater China", mainland China, Hong Kong,

Macao, and Taiwan.  They are required not to show the FCC/EC markings,

apparently in order to make it difficult to export to other countries.

I think Egoman's product description is refreshingly clear with regard to use as a PC alternate.

http://mall.egoman.com.cn/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=80&Itemid=225  (translated)

Q - What is the Raspberry Pi?

A - It is a credit card sized computer board, designed to encourage a new generation of PC users to develop their programming skills. Raspberry Pi will be connected to the monitor / TV and keyboard, the user simply correct program design, it can do a lot like a traditional PC-like things. But it is not a simple plug and play PC, Windows is not installed or a similar package, so it's not for laptop or desktop PC alternatives.

(emphasis added)

coder27 wrote:

 

Perhaps the Embest BBB is restricted to China like the Egoman RPi.  Don't know.

That's more of a marketing thing though isn't it.  We know that it's perfectly possible to build RPi in china and ship it to the rest of the world as they did exactly that for the first however many hundred thousands.  We know Embest can ship stuff outside China as they do with the likes of the SL.

You'd expect that it'd be obvious to anyone with a little common sense that putting up barriers to getting hold of a BBB outside the US is going to cripple it's chance at success, especially when there are other boards available that don't attract this sort of additional hassle while being just as 'dual-use' capable. So you wonder why someone classified the BBB in this way, seems likely that it'd have to have been either beaglebord.org or circuitco..

Do we know if the other beagleboards suffer from this too, or is it just the BBB ?