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5V UARTs on SBCs?

shabaz
shabaz over 9 years ago

Hi!

I'm thinking of turning this project into a PCB:

Building a USB UART Serial Adapter

 

As part of that, I thought a few bits of functionality could be added at low cost:

(a) an MSP430 programmer

(b) perhaps a voltage monitoring capability since there is an ADC on the MCP2221

 

However, I wanted it to be a super-simple project. The current project uses jumpers to select 5V or 3.3V logic level UARTs. One solution could be

a switch, but it would be nice to not have a switch either.

To eliminate that, I'm thinking of making the Rx pin 5V tolerant, but leave the Tx pin at 3.3V logic levels. This should therefore be compatible with any boards

that use 3.3V levels, but also the 5V Arduino Uno (it should be fine with 3.3V logic level input according to the ATmega datasheet).

(I'll also make it somewhat tolerant to accidentally swapping round of Rx and Tx).

 

My question is, does anyone know, are there any popular 5V boards that would not be OK with 3.3V logic level?

 

(I know now there are 1.8V boards too, like the Odroids, but that is a complication too far, so this board will only handle 3.3V and have the tolerance for 5V).

 

Thanks!

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  • rachaelp
    rachaelp over 9 years ago +3
    You can get bi-directional level translator IC's that will run either side from differing voltages. You could use one of these with one side powered from your circuit and the other side either powered…
  • jc2048
    jc2048 over 9 years ago in reply to shabaz +3
    It's not "totally insane", it just falls in that grey area between hacking and good design. Reverse biassed diodes are a very common way to protect the input/output from ESD [electro-static discharge]…
  • dougw
    dougw over 9 years ago in reply to shabaz +2
    Lets see - if going through hole is like going from touch screen back to pushbutton then wire-wrap must be like rotary dial. (point-to-point wiring would be like switchboard phoning?)
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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 9 years ago

    The main purpose of the design is great - and useful.

     

    For additional options, I'd say: Don't add anything that requires an additional component or code.

    It's good to provide hack points in the design where the design can be extended or hacked - where it makes sense and if it doesn't impact the initial purpose.

     

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 9 years ago

    The main purpose of the design is great - and useful.

     

    For additional options, I'd say: Don't add anything that requires an additional component or code.

    It's good to provide hack points in the design where the design can be extended or hacked - where it makes sense and if it doesn't impact the initial purpose.

     

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 9 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    Hi Jan,

     

    Wise words from you as always. It makes sense. Keep it simple, do one thing well rather than many things poorly, and provide some hack points (maybe some small perf-board array of holes, to allow interfacing or extending). All great ideas.

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