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CadSoft forums now available on element14

ChristyZ

Greetings CadSoft users. The CadSoft forums are now available on www.element-14.com/cadsoft. Fear not, your beloved forums will remain available for you to access via your favorite newsgroup reader, but now you can also read and post to them via element14. Anything posted on one will sync and be avialable to users on the other.

 

We hope this will allow us to serve even more members of the engineering community and share with them the benefits of EAGLE.

 

Sincerely,

 

Christy Zurcher - element14 Manager

  • in reply to e14 Contributor

    HI, i just got my new raspberry pi I've plugged everything in (apart from a keyboard, does that make a difference ?) and everything on the screen (apart from the time so the screen is on ) is blank why and how do you fix it because I am really excited !!   HELP PLEASE

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  • HI, i just got my new raspberry pi I've plugged everything in (apart from a keyboard, does that make a difference ?) and everything on the screen (apart from the time so the screen is on ) is blank why and how do you fix it because I am really excited !!   HELP PLEASE

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  • in reply to e14 Contributor

    Oliver Betz schrieb:

     

    >>Most of this discusion should not be here. Both Element14 and EagleCentral

    >>should be hosting their own contact/discussion/support  forums about 'their'

    >>tool.

     

    if you mean that they should stopp message exchange with the Cadsoft

    groups: Splitting communities is a bad thing.

     

    I think he was only referring to the discussion about the bugs and

    behaviour of the gateways themselves, not the technical content related

    to EAGLE.

     

    Tilmann

     

  • in reply to e14 Contributor

    "Warren Brayshaw" wrote:

     

     

    >Most of this discusion should not be here. Both Element14 and EagleCentral

    >should be hosting their own contact/discussion/support  forums about 'their'

    >tool.

     

    if you mean that they should stopp message exchange with the Cadsoft

    groups: Splitting communities is a bad thing.

     

    Oliver

     

  • in reply to e14 Contributor

    Warren Brayshaw schrieb:

     

    Most of this discusion should not be here. Both Element14 and EagleCentral

    should be hosting their own contact/discussion/support  forums about 'their'

    tool.

     

    What is required is for everyone to communicate their issues directly to

    Element14 and EagleCentral. This includes Cadsoft who should also be

    sending them a strong message when they feed posting that are not clean NNTP

    styled or have errors like those that attribute postings to others.

     

    Very good points, I fully agree.

     

    Tilmann

     

  • in reply to kcadsoft

    Am 13.07.2010 13:36, schrieb Klaus Schmidinger:

     

    >

    It's probably a bad idea to stir up this thread again, but I just can't

    leave this sentence uncommented.

    >

    If something is to be reasonably displayed on various systems (forums vs. news

    groups), IMHO it makes the most sense to use the least common denominator.

    And that is clearly NNTP.

    >

    Anyway, as long as I have a say here, the CadSoft support groups' database

    will be the NNTP server on news.cadsoft.de. Web forums may interface to these

    groups and do their best to display the postings correctly and send their

    postings to the news server in a proper way. However, there is only one

    place that is the ultimate reference, and that's news.cadsoft.de.

    >

    Klaus Schmidinger

     

    Thank you very much for this final (hopefully) word image

     

    --

    Gruß / regards

     

    Joern

     

  • in reply to kcadsoft

    On 7/13/10 7:36 AM, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:

    Anyway, as long as I have a say here, the CadSoft support groups' database

    will be the NNTP server on news.cadsoft.de. Web forums may interface to these

    groups and do their best to display the postings correctly and send their

    postings to the news server in a proper way. However, there is only one

    place that is the ultimate reference, and that's news.cadsoft.de.

    >

    Klaus Schmidinger

     

    Thank you...thank you...thank you.

     

    This business with Element-14 etc. has made some people nervous about

    the direction of Eagle but more and more it seems there is nothing to

    worry about.

     

  • in reply to e14 Contributor

     

    "Oliver Betz"  wrote

     

    >That would leave Cadsoft alone with their NNTP interface, and give clear

    >guidance (and point responsibility) to whoever wants to relay it.

     

     

    Surely that is the point!

    It's irrelevant which system is the best or the most preferred.

     

    Both Element14 and EagleCentral built their web interface for their own

    reasons, dare I say commercial reasons.

    It is encumbent upon them to provide both a functional tool and support for

    any issues it has.

    All the real issues are to do with them breaking the NNTP presentation or

    failing to present an NNTP posting correctly on their site. In both cases

    it's their problem.

     

    Both Element14 and EagleCentral can 'bling' their interface as much as they

    like but they must process every post they take via their site and only feed

    the NNTP with stripped data that simulates a direct post to the NNTP.

    Because of this any item posted in Element14 should appear as an NNTP post

    on EagleCentral and visa versa.

     

    Most of this discusion should not be here. Both Element14 and EagleCentral

    should be hosting their own contact/discussion/support  forums about 'their'

    tool.

     

    What is required is for everyone to communicate their issues directly to

    Element14 and EagleCentral . This includes Cadsoft who should also be

    sending them a strong message when they feed posting that are not clean NNTP

    styled or have errors like those that attribute postings to others .

     

    Warren

     

     

     

  • in reply to e14 Contributor

    Am 13.07.2010 18:34, schrieb Olin Lathrop:

    Oliver Betz wrote on Tue, 13 July 2010 11:09

    >> since it seems to be sooo difficult for todays users to get a NNTP

    >> client running,

    >

    It's probably not difficult, but many just don't want to. I did Usenet and

    NNTP in the 1980s. Things have moved on since then, and I really don't

    want to go back. In any case, you can't tell people what they want to use.

    You can either accomodate them or not. If I remember right, the forums at

    Eagle Central have over 5000 members. That's a lot of people that voted

    with their feet. Whether they did it for silly reasons or whether you

    agree with them is immaterial.

     

    Eagle Central seems to list anybody who has ever posted in news.cadsoft.de

    as a member of its forum. So you may consider subtracting at least my name

    from the member list. Maybe even Tilmann's and some more.

     

    Quote:

    >> what about a web interface to news.cadsoft.de?

    >

    As I said before, that doesn't address the issues. You're still dumbing

    things down to the level of NNTP, and things are still stored in lowest

    common denominator form with information irreversibly lost. That would

    serve nobody's goal.

     

    It would serve mine, if done correctly. Maybe even Tilmann's and some more.

     

  • in reply to e14 Contributor

    Oliver Betz wrote on Tue, 13 July 2010 11:09

    since it seems to be sooo difficult for todays users to get a NNTP

    client running,

     

    It's probably not difficult, but many just don't want to.  I did Usenet and

    NNTP in the 1980s.  Things have moved on since then, and I really don't

    want to go back.  In any case, you can't tell people what they want to use.

    You can either accomodate them or not.  If I remember right, the forums at

    Eagle Central have over 5000 members.  That's a lot of people that voted

    with their feet.  Whether they did it for silly reasons or whether you

    agree with them is immaterial.  The fact is that the demand is there.

     

    Quote:

    what about a web interface to news.cadsoft.de?

     

    As I said before, that doesn't address the issues.  You're still dumbing

    things down to the level of NNTP, and things are still stored in lowest

    common denominator form with information irreversibly lost.  That would

    serve nobody's goal.

     

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