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ripup and prefs for autorouter

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Former Member over 13 years ago

Hi everybody, eagle-6.1 free newbie here.  Eagle newbie, never used it till

now.  Very old hand at electronics, 60+ years working in both design and

repair.

 

I have designed a 9 part, double sided board, 3 of the parts are

opto-interruptors but I find that the router wants to put connections to it

on the top side of the board.  I am feeding this to pcb2gcode and milling

the board on a small mill running what used to be emc but which we were

forced to rename to LinuxCNC a few weeks back.

 

My problem is that I cannot plate thru the component holes, so by the time

I run a piece of 30 gage kynar wire thru the hole and solder the top, the

solder prevents the opto device from sitting down on the board so it can be

bolted down.

 

That means that I need to specify to the auto router somehow, that those 5

terminals on each of the 3 devices need to be wired from the bottom without

exception.  The 3 resistors and 3 diodes can be soldered top and bottom as

they are accessible to my soldering iron from both sides. Small vias aren't

a problem as long as they aren't under these devices.

 

Perhaps an outline of a verboten area in the Tkeepout layer?  Likely there

are several ways to skin this long lived cat and I'm thinking out loud.

 

Is there some way, perhaps even in that parts library description, to tell

the autorouter that this part can only be connected to on the bottom,

solder side of the board?  Perhaps by nuking the via outline in layer 1,

leaving only the leads through hole?

 

Or some similar workaround that would do the same thing by removing the top

layer from the autorouters "I can use this" mapping?

 

Thanks, Gene

 

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Cheers, Gene

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soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."

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    Former Member over 13 years ago

    Gene Heskett wrote:

    Hi everybody, eagle-6.1 free newbie here.  Eagle newbie, never used

    it till now.  Very old hand at electronics, 60+ years working in both

    design and repair.

     

    I have designed a 9 part, double sided board, 3 of the parts are

    opto-interruptors but I find that the router wants to put connections

    to it on the top side of the board.  I am feeding this to pcb2gcode

    and milling the board on a small mill running what used to be emc but

    which we were forced to rename to LinuxCNC a few weeks back.

     

    My problem is that I cannot plate thru the component holes, so by the

    time I run a piece of 30 gage kynar wire thru the hole and solder the

    top, the solder prevents the opto device from sitting down on the

    board so it can be bolted down.

     

    That means that I need to specify to the auto router somehow, that

    those 5 terminals on each of the 3 devices need to be wired from the

    bottom without exception.  The 3 resistors and 3 diodes can be

    soldered top and bottom as they are accessible to my soldering iron

    from both sides. Small vias aren't a problem as long as they aren't

    under these devices.

     

    Perhaps an outline of a verboten area in the Tkeepout layer?  Likely

    there are several ways to skin this long lived cat and I'm thinking

    out loud.

     

    Is there some way, perhaps even in that parts library description, to

    tell the autorouter that this part can only be connected to on the

    bottom, solder side of the board?  Perhaps by nuking the via outline

    in layer 1, leaving only the leads through hole?

     

    Or some similar workaround that would do the same thing by removing

    the top layer from the autorouters "I can use this" mapping?

     

    Thanks, Gene

     

    --

    Cheers, Gene

    --

    "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:

    soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."

    -Ed Howdershelt (Author)

    --

    Web access to CadSoft support forums at www.eaglecentral.ca.  Where

    the CadSoft EAGLE community meets.

     

     

    Hi Gene

     

    You could place a rectangle on the tRestrict layer over your

    opto-interruptors. The autorouter will then not use that area to connect to

    the TPH pads.on the top layer and so be forced to the bottom layer.

    vRestrict is used in a similar fashion to prevent vias in an area.

    Additionally  bRestrict is for areas on the bottom of the board.

     

    You can add these restricted areas to your library parts if you want this on

    all future boards

     

    Warren

     

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    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Thanks Warren, I figured there had to be a way.

     

    Next question: Is there also a global ripup everything & I just can't find

    it?  Right now it takes about 15 minutes of one segment at a time ripup's

    to start from scratch if I want to make sure I got them all.

     

    Thanks again, I will do that when I'm next awake.  Its about signoff time

    for tonight.

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    Cheers, Gene

    --

    "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:

    soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."

    -Ed Howdershelt (Author)

    --

    Web access to CadSoft support forums at www.eaglecentral.ca.  Where the CadSoft EAGLE community meets.

     

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    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    On 02/11/2012 11:48 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:

    Thanks Warren, I figured there had to be a way.

     

    Next question: Is there also a global ripup everything&  I just can't find

    it?  Right now it takes about 15 minutes of one segment at a time ripup's

    to start from scratch if I want to make sure I got them all.

     

    Thanks again, I will do that when I'm next awake.  Its about signoff time

    for tonight.

    Group the whole board then ripup should do it. I you rip up the air wire

    after the segment is ripped up it will delete more or all of the

    remaining segments of that net.

     

    Since you are just starting spend some time in the on line help and find

    a tutorial. If you know the proper search terms almost ever question you

    will have has been answered several times except for new changes in

    version 6.

    Paul R.

     

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    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    On 02/11/2012 11:48 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:

    Thanks Warren, I figured there had to be a way.

     

    Next question: Is there also a global ripup everything&  I just can't find

    it?  Right now it takes about 15 minutes of one segment at a time ripup's

    to start from scratch if I want to make sure I got them all.

     

    Thanks again, I will do that when I'm next awake.  Its about signoff time

    for tonight.

    Group the whole board then ripup should do it. I you rip up the air wire

    after the segment is ripped up it will delete more or all of the

    remaining segments of that net.

     

    Since you are just starting spend some time in the on line help and find

    a tutorial. If you know the proper search terms almost ever question you

    will have has been answered several times except for new changes in

    version 6.

    Paul R.

     

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