The design rule screen is missing the "Save As" and "Load" buttons, at
least I cannot find them nor any way to save the file to a new name.
The screen shown on page 131 of the manual shows them, but danged if I
can get them to show up.
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John Bachman, W1JGB
AnaTek Corporation
John Bachman schrieb:
On 1/15/2010 8:08 PM, Olin Lathrop wrote:
John Bachman wrote on Fri, 15 January 2010 14:55
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...
Look up something called "trimming" messages you are replying to. It can
be done, among other ways, with that "Delete" thingy on your keyboard.
Quote:
I am not running it in board edit mode.
So try that.
Quote:
I am running it from the Control Panel thinking that I should set up
the design rules before starting the board design.
Setting up the DRC early in the board editing process is a good idea. You
can also create various DRC setups from there for later use by using the
SAVE AS button to write them to your private DRC directory you have in
you
DRC search path.
Quote:
Could that be the difference?
If I wanted to know that I'd simply try it, seeing as how that would be
faster than asking on a newsgroup.
This newsgroup is the method for getting support that Cadsoft recommends
in its documentation. Being a new user I presume that the software
works the way the manual says that it does and when that is not the case
I first wonder if I am doing something wrong or missing something. Hence
my question so I can learn the proper techniques, not just take a shot
at something that seems odd to me. Setting up design rules before
starting a board design seems logical and there is nothing in the
documentation that suggests a different procedure.
It would also be quicker if you answered the question rather than
telling us what you might do in my situation. Since you are intimately
more familiar with the program than am I, it is little wonder that you
might take a different approach.
I also note that you seem to have some difficulty in acknowledging that
there might be a defect in the program or the documentation. That is a
pity as a perfect application and documentation is rare and improvements
can be made by feedback from users, especially new ones.
Calm down. This group is usually very fast if there are errors to report.
Usually I want to have a schematic before I discuss design rules and I
suppose many many others do it the same way.
So the problem may never have been noticed because I just checked
version 4.16r2 and that shows the same picture with no
" load / save as.." when opened from the control panel.
So this bug is confirmed and will be noticed by cadsoft you can bet.
But why didn't you try what Olin suggested, go from the board? 
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Gruß / regards
Joern
John Bachman schrieb:
On 1/15/2010 8:08 PM, Olin Lathrop wrote:
John Bachman wrote on Fri, 15 January 2010 14:55
begin 644 drc.gif
M1TE&.#EA9@+^`?<`,0``````0```@```P```_P`D```D0``D@``DP``D_P!)
M``!)0`!)@`!)P`!)_P!M``!M0`!M@`!MP`!M_P"2``"20`"2@`"2P`"2_P"V
...
Look up something called "trimming" messages you are replying to. It can
be done, among other ways, with that "Delete" thingy on your keyboard.
Quote:
I am not running it in board edit mode.
So try that.
Quote:
I am running it from the Control Panel thinking that I should set up
the design rules before starting the board design.
Setting up the DRC early in the board editing process is a good idea. You
can also create various DRC setups from there for later use by using the
SAVE AS button to write them to your private DRC directory you have in
you
DRC search path.
Quote:
Could that be the difference?
If I wanted to know that I'd simply try it, seeing as how that would be
faster than asking on a newsgroup.
This newsgroup is the method for getting support that Cadsoft recommends
in its documentation. Being a new user I presume that the software
works the way the manual says that it does and when that is not the case
I first wonder if I am doing something wrong or missing something. Hence
my question so I can learn the proper techniques, not just take a shot
at something that seems odd to me. Setting up design rules before
starting a board design seems logical and there is nothing in the
documentation that suggests a different procedure.
It would also be quicker if you answered the question rather than
telling us what you might do in my situation. Since you are intimately
more familiar with the program than am I, it is little wonder that you
might take a different approach.
I also note that you seem to have some difficulty in acknowledging that
there might be a defect in the program or the documentation. That is a
pity as a perfect application and documentation is rare and improvements
can be made by feedback from users, especially new ones.
Calm down. This group is usually very fast if there are errors to report.
Usually I want to have a schematic before I discuss design rules and I
suppose many many others do it the same way.
So the problem may never have been noticed because I just checked
version 4.16r2 and that shows the same picture with no
" load / save as.." when opened from the control panel.
So this bug is confirmed and will be noticed by cadsoft you can bet.
But why didn't you try what Olin suggested, go from the board?
--
Gruß / regards
Joern
On 01/17/10 10:55, Joern Paschedag wrote:
...
So the problem may never have been noticed because I just checked
version 4.16r2 and that shows the same picture with no
" load / save as.." when opened from the control panel.
So this bug is confirmed and will be noticed by cadsoft you can bet.
It's not a bug - it's a feature 
The "Load" and "Save" buttons are there to load a different
Design Rules file into a board (or save the current one from
a board). When editing a Design Rules file from the Control
Panel, there is no board to load into or save from.
Klaus Schmidinger
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CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40
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On 1/17/2010 4:55 AM, Joern Paschedag wrote:
Calm down. This group is usually very fast if there are errors to report.
Usually I want to have a schematic before I discuss design rules and I
suppose many many others do it the same way.
So the problem may never have been noticed because I just checked
version 4.16r2 and that shows the same picture with no
" load / save as.." when opened from the control panel.
So this bug is confirmed and will be noticed by cadsoft you can bet.
But why didn't you try what Olin suggested, go from the board?
It seemed logical to this newbie to set up the design rules before
beginning the board layout. After completing the schematic and before
starting the board I wanted to set up my design rules. That just seemed
logical to me and since one can access the design rules from the Control
Panel, why not provide for creating a new set of them for the subsequent
board. Hence, my question.
Then Olin gets all snarly and I questioned why.
I have now set my reader to ignore him. Sorry if I offended anyone else.
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John Bachman, W1JGB
AnaTek Corporation
