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Design rule screen in 5.7.0

autodeskguest
autodeskguest over 15 years ago

The design rule screen is missing the "Save As" and "Load" buttons, at

least I cannot find them nor any way to save the file to a new name.

The screen shown on page 131 of the manual shows them, but danged if I

can get them to show up.

--

John Bachman, W1JGB

AnaTek Corporation

 

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  • autodeskguest
    autodeskguest over 15 years ago

    "John Bachman" <john.bachman@anatekcorp.com> wrote in message

    news:hio2tv$2ap$1@cheetah.cadsoft.de...

    The design rule screen is missing the "Save As" and "Load" buttons, at

    least I cannot find them nor any way to save the file to a new name. The

    screen shown on page 131 of the manual shows them, but danged if I can get

    them to show up.

     

    Do you have the "File" tab in the drc window? Is it empty? I remember

    getting confused myself long time ago...

     

     

     

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    autodeskguest over 15 years ago

    On 1/15/2010 4:04 AM, Morten Leikvoll wrote:

    "John Bachman"<john.bachman@anatekcorp.com>  wrote in message

    news:hio2tv$2ap$1@cheetah.cadsoft.de...

    The design rule screen is missing the "Save As" and "Load" buttons, at

    least I cannot find them nor any way to save the file to a new name. The

    screen shown on page 131 of the manual shows them, but danged if I can get

    them to show up.

     

    Do you have the "File" tab in the drc window? Is it empty? I remember

    getting confused myself long time ago...

     

     

    I have the File tab.  When I select the "Edit Description" button I get

    Description and there is one editable area that says

    EAGLE Design
    Rules

    .  Is that it?

     

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    John Bachman, W1JGB

    AnaTek Corporation

     

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  • autodeskguest
    autodeskguest over 15 years ago

    John Bachman wrote on Thu, 14 January 2010 16:39

    The design rule screen is missing the "Save As" and "Load" buttons, at

    least I cannot find them nor any way to save the file to a new name.

     

    I find this hard to believe.  When I run the command DRC in the board

    editor, I get a window that looks like the attached.  The LOAD and SAVE AS

    buttons are clearly visible in the lower right corner.

     

     

    --

    Browser access to CadSoft Support Forums at http://www.eaglecentral.ca

     

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    autodeskguest over 15 years ago

    On 1/15/2010 12:01 PM, Olin Lathrop wrote:

    John Bachman wrote on Thu, 14 January 2010 16:39

    The design rule screen is missing the "Save As" and "Load" buttons, at

    least I cannot find them nor any way to save the file to a new name.

     

    I find this hard to believe. When I run the command DRC in the board

    editor, I get a window that looks like the attached. The LOAD and SAVE AS

    buttons are clearly visible in the lower right corner.

     

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    end

     

    I am not running it in board edit mode.  I am running it from the

    Control Panel thinking that I should set up the design rules before

    starting the board design.  Could that be the difference?

     

    And why would I lie to you?

     

    --

    John Bachman, W1JGB

    AnaTek Corporation

     

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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 15 years ago

     

    "John Bachman" <john.bachman@anatekcorp.com> wrote in message

    news:hiqh7l$qcg$1@cheetah.cadsoft.de...

    On 1/15/2010 12:01 PM, Olin Lathrop wrote:

    John Bachman wrote on Thu, 14 January 2010 16:39

    The design rule screen is missing the "Save As" and "Load" buttons, at

    least I cannot find them nor any way to save the file to a new name.

     

    I find this hard to believe. When I run the command DRC in the board

    editor, I get a window that looks like the attached. The LOAD and SAVE AS

    buttons are clearly visible in the lower right corner.

     

    begin 644 drc.gif

     

     

    I am not running it in board edit mode.  I am running it from the Control

    Panel thinking that I should set up the design rules before starting the

    board design.  Could that be the difference?

     

    And why would I lie to you?

     

    --

    John Bachman, W1JGB

    AnaTek Corporation

     

     

    Hi John,

     

    I see where you are accessing these from.  I just checked from the control

    panel and I see exactly what you are seeing.  I think you do have to be in

    board edit mode to set these up... please let a more experienced user

    confirm this though.  When I open a new board I then have access to the

    window that Olin included.

     

    Best of luck!

     

    Terri

     

     

     

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  • autodeskguest
    autodeskguest over 15 years ago

    John Bachman wrote on Fri, 15 January 2010 14:55

    begin 644 drc.gif

    M1TE&.#EA9@+^`?<`,0``````0```@```P```_P`D```D0``D@``DP``D_P!)

    M``!)0`!)@`!)P`!)_P!M``!M0`!M@`!MP`!M_P"2``"20`"2@`"2P`"2_P"V

    ...

     

    Look up something called "trimming" messages you are replying to.  It can

    be done, among other ways, with that "Delete" thingy on your keyboard.

     

    Quote:

    I am not running it in board edit mode.

     

    So try that.

     

    Quote:

    I am running it from the Control Panel thinking that I should set up

    the design rules before starting the board design.

     

    Setting up the DRC early in the board editing process is a good idea.  You

    can also create various DRC setups from there for later use by using the

    SAVE AS button to write them to your private DRC directory you have in you

    DRC search path.

     

    Quote:

    Could that be the difference?

     

    If I wanted to know that I'd simply try it, seeing as how that would be

    faster than asking on a newsgroup.

    --

    Browser access to CadSoft Support Forums at http://www.eaglecentral.ca

     

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  • autodeskguest
    autodeskguest over 15 years ago

    On 1/15/2010 8:08 PM, Olin Lathrop wrote:

    John Bachman wrote on Fri, 15 January 2010 14:55

    begin 644 drc.gif

    M1TE&.#EA9@+^`?<`,0``````0```@```P```_P`D```D0``D@``DP``D_P!)

    M``!)0`!)@`!)P`!)_P!M``!M0`!M@`!MP`!M_P"2``"20`"2@`"2P`"2_P"V

    ...

     

    Look up something called "trimming" messages you are replying to. It can

    be done, among other ways, with that "Delete" thingy on your keyboard.

     

    Quote:

    I am not running it in board edit mode.

     

    So try that.

     

    Quote:

    I am running it from the Control Panel thinking that I should set up

    the design rules before starting the board design.

     

    Setting up the DRC early in the board editing process is a good idea. You

    can also create various DRC setups from there for later use by using the

    SAVE AS button to write them to your private DRC directory you have in you

    DRC search path.

     

    Quote:

    Could that be the difference?

     

    If I wanted to know that I'd simply try it, seeing as how that would be

    faster than asking on a newsgroup.

     

    This newsgroup is the method for getting support that Cadsoft recommends

    in its documentation.  Being a new user I presume that the software

    works the way the manual says that it does and when that is not the case

    I first wonder if I am doing something wrong or missing something.

    Hence my question so I can learn the proper techniques, not just take a

    shot at something that seems odd to me.  Setting up design rules before

    starting a board design seems logical and there is nothing in the

    documentation that suggests a different procedure.

     

    It would also be quicker if you answered the question rather than

    telling us what you might do in my situation.  Since you are intimately

    more familiar with the program than am I, it is little wonder that you

    might take a different approach.

     

    I also note that you seem to have some difficulty in acknowledging that

    there might be a defect in the program or the documentation.  That is a

    pity as a perfect application and documentation is rare and improvements

    can be made by feedback from users, especially new ones.

     

    --

    John Bachman, W1JGB

    AnaTek Corporation

     

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  • autodeskguest
    autodeskguest over 15 years ago

    John Bachman wrote on Sat, 16 January 2010 12:50

    It would also be quicker if you answered the question rather than

    telling us what you might do in my situation.

     

    You wanted to know if you could get the different DRC screen that I showed

    by running DRC in the board editor as apposed to wherever you were running

    it.  The point was that you could have and should have simply tried it.  It

    would have taken a few seconds.

     

    --

    Browser access to CadSoft Support Forums at http://www.eaglecentral.ca

     

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  • autodeskguest
    autodeskguest over 15 years ago

    John Bachman schrieb:

    On 1/15/2010 8:08 PM, Olin Lathrop wrote:

    John Bachman wrote on Fri, 15 January 2010 14:55

    begin 644 drc.gif

    M1TE&.#EA9@+^`?<`,0``````0```@```P```_P`D```D0``D@``DP``D_P!)

    M``!)0`!)@`!)P`!)_P!M``!M0`!M@`!MP`!M_P"2``"20`"2@`"2P`"2_P"V

    ...

     

    Look up something called "trimming" messages you are replying to. It can

    be done, among other ways, with that "Delete" thingy on your keyboard.

     

    Quote:

    I am not running it in board edit mode.

     

    So try that.

     

    Quote:

    I am running it from the Control Panel thinking that I should set up

    the design rules before starting the board design.

     

    Setting up the DRC early in the board editing process is a good idea. You

    can also create various DRC setups from there for later use by using the

    SAVE AS button to write them to your private DRC directory you have in

    you

    DRC search path.

     

    Quote:

    Could that be the difference?

     

    If I wanted to know that I'd simply try it, seeing as how that would be

    faster than asking on a newsgroup.

     

    This newsgroup is the method for getting support that Cadsoft recommends

    in its documentation.  Being a new user I presume that the software

    works the way the manual says that it does and when that is not the case

    I first wonder if I am doing something wrong or missing something. Hence

    my question so I can learn the proper techniques, not just take a shot

    at something that seems odd to me.  Setting up design rules before

    starting a board design seems logical and there is nothing in the

    documentation that suggests a different procedure.

     

    It would also be quicker if you answered the question rather than

    telling us what you might do in my situation.  Since you are intimately

    more familiar with the program than am I, it is little wonder that you

    might take a different approach.

     

    I also note that you seem to have some difficulty in acknowledging that

    there might be a defect in the program or the documentation.  That is a

    pity as a perfect application and documentation is rare and improvements

    can be made by feedback from users, especially new ones.

     

     

    Calm down. This group is usually very fast if there are errors to report.

    Usually I want to have a schematic before I discuss design rules and I

    suppose many many others do it the same way.

    So the problem may never have been noticed because I just checked

    version 4.16r2 and that shows the same picture with no

    " load / save as.." when opened from the control panel.

    So this bug is confirmed and will be noticed by cadsoft you can bet.

    But why didn't you try what Olin suggested, go from the board? image

     

    --

    Gruß / regards

     

    Joern

     

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  • kcadsoft
    kcadsoft over 15 years ago in reply to autodeskguest

    On 01/17/10 10:55, Joern Paschedag wrote:

    ...

    So the problem may never have been noticed because I just checked

    version 4.16r2 and that shows the same picture with no

    " load / save as.." when opened from the control panel.

    So this bug is confirmed and will be noticed by cadsoft you can bet.

     

    It's not a bug - it's a feature image

     

    The "Load" and "Save" buttons are there to load a different

    Design Rules file into a board (or save the current one from

    a board). When editing a Design Rules file from the Control

    Panel, there is no board to load into or save from.

     

    Klaus Schmidinger

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    _______________________________________________________________

     

    Klaus Schmidinger                       Phone: +49-8635-6989-10

    CadSoft Computer GmbH                   Fax:   +49-8635-6989-40

    Pleidolfweg 15                          Email:   kls@cadsoft.de

    D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany           URL:     www.cadsoft.de

    _______________________________________________________________

     

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