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Good practice on 4layer pcb for noise immunity

pedromiguel
pedromiguel over 11 years ago

Hello,

I want to design a 4layer board and not know what is the best practice to make best immunity to noise

I plan to put the components on the top layer and layer2 all as GND, the layer15 as VCC an the bottom layer for the rest of route. The top and bottom layer i want design a poligon that connects to GND

 

Anyone have experience with this and can give a ideas if what i want do it's correct or not?

 

Thanks in advance

Best regards

Pedro

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    0 dukepro over 11 years ago

    Pedro,

     

    It's very convenient to have a ground and power plane, but in many cases

    one should consider using a star power and star ground architecture.

    This minimizes noise from one IC from interfering with the operation of

    another.  Ideally each component would have a ground line from its

    ground pin directly to the power supply ground.  Same goes for power.

    This can't always be done, but emphasis should be to keep all analog

    devices on their own analog ground, and digital devices on their own

    digital ground.  Both grounds can be tied together with a SHORT device

    in close proximity to the power supply ground.  The power planes do

    provide some capacitance, but it's such a small value that a .1 or .01

    uF bypass cap will swamp this out.

     

    Another suggestion is to keep the traces on one layer orthogonal to

    adjacent layers.  This minimizes the capacitive coupling from one trace

    to another.  So one layer should be designated for traces that run

    horizontal and diagonal from top left to bottom right, and the adjacent

    later should be designated for traces that run vertical and diagonal

    from bottom left to top right.  The idea is to minimize the stray

    capacitance between signals.

     

    Of course, for every rule there are exceptions, and it's up to the

    designer to identify which rules to follow and when to make exceptions.

     

    HTH,

        - Chuck

     

    On 08/12/2014 02:07 PM, Pedro Pinto wrote:

    Hello,

    I want to design a 4layer board and not know what is the best practice

    to make best immunity to noise

    I plan to put the components on the top layer and layer2 all as GND, the

    layer15 as VCC an the bottom layer for the rest of route. The top and

    bottom layer i want design a poligon that connects to GND

     

    Anyone have experience with this and can give a ideas if what i want do

    it's correct or not?

     

    Thanks in advance

    Best regards

    Pedro

     

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    0 dukepro over 11 years ago

    Pedro,

     

    It's very convenient to have a ground and power plane, but in many cases

    one should consider using a star power and star ground architecture.

    This minimizes noise from one IC from interfering with the operation of

    another.  Ideally each component would have a ground line from its

    ground pin directly to the power supply ground.  Same goes for power.

    This can't always be done, but emphasis should be to keep all analog

    devices on their own analog ground, and digital devices on their own

    digital ground.  Both grounds can be tied together with a SHORT device

    in close proximity to the power supply ground.  The power planes do

    provide some capacitance, but it's such a small value that a .1 or .01

    uF bypass cap will swamp this out.

     

    Another suggestion is to keep the traces on one layer orthogonal to

    adjacent layers.  This minimizes the capacitive coupling from one trace

    to another.  So one layer should be designated for traces that run

    horizontal and diagonal from top left to bottom right, and the adjacent

    later should be designated for traces that run vertical and diagonal

    from bottom left to top right.  The idea is to minimize the stray

    capacitance between signals.

     

    Of course, for every rule there are exceptions, and it's up to the

    designer to identify which rules to follow and when to make exceptions.

     

    HTH,

        - Chuck

     

    On 08/12/2014 02:07 PM, Pedro Pinto wrote:

    Hello,

    I want to design a 4layer board and not know what is the best practice

    to make best immunity to noise

    I plan to put the components on the top layer and layer2 all as GND, the

    layer15 as VCC an the bottom layer for the rest of route. The top and

    bottom layer i want design a poligon that connects to GND

     

    Anyone have experience with this and can give a ideas if what i want do

    it's correct or not?

     

    Thanks in advance

    Best regards

    Pedro

     

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