When is Eagle v8 coming   out?

No need to throw out the key files and registration codes.

Nobody asked for that, they have been working fine.

What happens when Autodesk pull the plug from their authentication server?

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CadSoft Computer has always, and will always, put the customer

needs at the focus of everything we do.

We will see how that is going to work out this time...

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I dont like this renting software model: I would prefer to pay for it, and use it with or without being online and get free updates as they become available. ~ Similiar to buying software on the Apple App Store.

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On 19.01.2017 03:26, Josh Hewson wrote:

I dont like this renting software model: I would prefer to pay for it, and use it with or without being online and get free updates as they become available. ~ Similiar to buying software on the Apple App Store.

I agree to this. I don't like to be held hostage (* see below) by some

unknown  future company policy. I find the "old" sw model very reliable,

as it doesn't matter what the future brings.

I do see sw/apps changing toward subscription models and I don't like

it. In fact I try to stay away from it. If my kid wants to play a game

on the ipad and I can buy it for $5, I may do that. If they want $1 a

month, by principle I don't buy it, even if I know the kid will be tired

of the game within a month. It is just the amount of involvement that

puts me off. I have to start getting mentally involved, like thinking

"but what happens after I pay for a month and a month has passed? Will

they automatically charge me again? For how long?", so I just don't go

there. I prefer paying some extra to get all that out of my head.

My biggest worry is some kind of future change "outside your walls" that

will render the software unusable and basically ask for ransom in a

social acceptable way, like require you to pay for soft or hw updates. I

think sw companies are really taking advantage of customers that don't

read or care about the license agreements because they are unable to

understand any consequences.

When it comes to Eagle 8, I don't know what to do yet. I am not

comfortable upgrading, but may end up doing it after all if I find the

new features worthy, but it will leave me with some discomfort, like

loosing another battle. Investigating what Kicad can do is very

tempting, and I feel I should enforce my strong opinion as customer too.

(*) I have seen this hostage situation happen on my old gen1 ipad, where

apps stop working and deny upgrades unless you have latest iOS, even if

the old hardware is perfectly capable of doing the job. It is just too

much hassle for them to support all iOS versions. I think we will see

more of these issues in the future.

On 19.01.2017 03:26, Josh Hewson wrote:

I dont like this renting software model: I would prefer to pay for it, and use it with or without being online and get free updates as they become available. ~ Similiar to buying software on the Apple App Store.

I agree to this. I don't like to be held hostage (* see below) by some

unknown  future company policy. I find the "old" sw model very reliable,

as it doesn't matter what the future brings.

I do see sw/apps changing toward subscription models and I don't like

it. In fact I try to stay away from it. If my kid wants to play a game

on the ipad and I can buy it for $5, I may do that. If they want $1 a

month, by principle I don't buy it, even if I know the kid will be tired

of the game within a month. It is just the amount of involvement that

puts me off. I have to start getting mentally involved, like thinking

"but what happens after I pay for a month and a month has passed? Will

they automatically charge me again? For how long?", so I just don't go

there. I prefer paying some extra to get all that out of my head.

My biggest worry is some kind of future change "outside your walls" that

will render the software unusable and basically ask for ransom in a

social acceptable way, like require you to pay for soft or hw updates. I

think sw companies are really taking advantage of customers that don't

read or care about the license agreements because they are unable to

understand any consequences.

When it comes to Eagle 8, I don't know what to do yet. I am not

comfortable upgrading, but may end up doing it after all if I find the

new features worthy, but it will leave me with some discomfort, like

loosing another battle. Investigating what Kicad can do is very

tempting, and I feel I should enforce my strong opinion as customer too.

(*) I have seen this hostage situation happen on my old gen1 ipad, where

apps stop working and deny upgrades unless you have latest iOS, even if

the old hardware is perfectly capable of doing the job. It is just too

much hassle for them to support all iOS versions. I think we will see

more of these issues in the future.