When is Eagle v8 coming   out?

One of the new exciting features:

Autodesk & Cadsoft will try again to enforce a "licence management"

system that will require you to have an internet connection...

They seem to have forgotten this:

Quote:

Dear Valued EAGLE Customer,

 

With the release of EAGLE v7, CadSoft Computer introduced a new

License Management system for EAGLE in order to better protect

our intellectual property and offer more flexibility and control

to customers with multi-user licenses on a network. During the

two weeks since the launch of EAGLE v7, we have been listening

carefully to your constructive feedback and concerns about the

new License Management technology and have decided to remove the

license management features from EAGLE v7.

 

CadSoft Computer has always, and will always, put the customer

needs at the focus of everything we do. We understand that for a

large group of our customers the current License Management is

causing limitations or is simply not usable in your current work

flow. Therefore, we have decided to withdraw the new License

Management system with immediate effect.

http://www.eaglecentral.ca/index.php/t/49854/c7286ef7ecac30e5ec09e9251159f508/

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On 1/17/2017 2:53 PM, Joop wrote:

One of the new exciting features:

 

Autodesk & Cadsoft will try again to enforce a "licence management"

system that will require you to have an internet connection...

 

They seem to have forgotten this:

Hi Joop,

It was nice to chat with you on friday. I'll never forget that fiasco

with Newark. There were a lot of factors that made that implementation

unuseable. I've played with this one. Even though I know that any change

in this area is going to be met with resistance, this implementation is

probably the least annoying.

So here are the details:

- Gone are key files and installation codes. No more having to store

them or remembering where you put them. Now your EAGLE license will be

tied to you Autodesk Account. When EAGLE starts up for the first time

you will have to login to your Autodesk Account and EAGLE will hit the

Autodesk server to check your entitlement(this is what Autodesk calls

your license).

If everything checks out, you'll be greeted with the control panel. If

you close EAGLE and open it again it will automatically use the

credentials you supplied previously and just start.

- EAGLE can work in offline mode for 14 days. The countdown starts from

the last time EAGLE was able to hit Autodesk servers. So if you go on a

business trip you don't have to worry about Wifi or anything like that.

It is VITAL that you don't sign out. If you sign out and then go

offline, EAGLE won't have your licensing credentials and you won't be

able to work.

That is basically all there is to it. At a minimum you need to be able

to connect to the internet once every two weeks in order to use EAGLE.

This is the same licensing model Fusion uses and it seems to be working

pretty good for them.

Thought it would be useful to spell it out clearly. Let me know if there

are any questions or if I missed something.

Best Regards,

Jorge Garcia

On 01/17/2017 05:18 PM, Jorge Garcia wrote:

On 1/17/2017 2:53 PM, Joop wrote:

One of the new exciting features:

 

Autodesk & Cadsoft will try again to enforce a "licence management"

system that will require you to have an internet connection...

 

They seem to have forgotten this:

Hi Joop,

 

It was nice to chat with you on friday. I'll never forget that fiasco

with Newark. There were a lot of factors that made that implementation

unuseable. I've played with this one. Even though I know that any

change in this area is going to be met with resistance, this

implementation is probably the least annoying.

 

So here are the details:

- Gone are key files and installation codes. No more having to store

them or remembering where you put them. Now your EAGLE license will be

tied to you Autodesk Account.

I have never considered storing a key file, nor remembering where it's

stored, as problems.

When EAGLE starts up for the first time you will have to login to your

Autodesk Account and EAGLE will hit the Autodesk server to check your

entitlement(this is what Autodesk calls your license).

 

If everything checks out, you'll be greeted with the control panel. If

you close EAGLE and open it again it will automatically use the

credentials you supplied previously and just start.

 

- EAGLE can work in offline mode for 14 days. The countdown starts

from the last time EAGLE was able to hit Autodesk servers. So if you

go on a business trip you don't have to worry about Wifi or anything

like that. It is VITAL that you don't sign out. If you sign out and

then go offline, EAGLE won't have your licensing credentials and you

won't be able to work.

 

That is basically all there is to it. At a minimum you need to be able

to connect to the internet once every two weeks in order to use EAGLE.

So, Eagle is going to be rented software.  One of the nice things about

Eagle is that I can use it on a secured system (one that's not connected

to the Internet).  I guess that's out the window with v8.

This also means that the sales model is no longer a purchase, but

instead it is now rented.  The customer now must repeatedly ask

permission to use the software at least every 14 days.

Jorge, I'm sure that everyone reading this is aware of the threat of

cyber attacks.  Such attacks are growing both in frequency and

sophistication.  It is only a matter of time before a Denial-Of-Service

(DOS) attack makes most cloud servers in accessible, perhaps as

collateral damage from an attack on a different target.  The best way to

counter such attacks is to use distributed resources.  And the best

distributed resource model is one that the client doesn't need to get on

the Internet at all, which has been Cadsoft's model.

It's been asked in this thread just how long AutoDesk intends to

authorize any particular license without imposing a renewal fee.  Will I

be able to use v8 even when support for it has long vanished?  A poster

on this thread has already mentioned that he does extended work in

locations where the Internet is not accessible.

I'll add to that that only a limited number of my machines have

connectivity to the Internet.  Version 7 will become the last version

that is installed on them.

This is the same licensing model Fusion uses and it seems to be

working pretty good for them.

Well, Fusion is cloud based, which means that it's rented, and that the

customer's intellectual property (IP) is stored on AutoDesk's servers,

which are not controlled or secured by the customer.  Funny...  They

boast that one can do 3D CAD design from anywhere (phone, table,

desktop).  Shouldn't that be qualified as "anywhere that is Internet

accessible"?

All in all, I'm not happy with this move.  I'll continue to use v7 under

the current license agreement, and will forego upgrading to v8.

I'd like to know if AD has any solution for off-network machines.

Best regards,

    - Chuck

On 01/22/2017 01:24 PM, rachaelp wrote:

 

Whilst I appreciate people are not happy with EAGLE going subscription based for v8, there is no need for everybody to suddenly migrate all their systems to another package immediately as existing licenses will continue to be valid indefinitely. Yes you might not be willing to use the subscription based version, but there is plenty of time to see how things play out and, if needed, migrate to a package which suits your needs better.

Well spaketh!

I'm not switching to Kicad - I have too much invested in Eagle to do

something as brash as changing CAD programs.  However, I will have to

live with v7.7 for some time.

Enjoy,

    - Chuck

John DeArmond wrote:

 

Now I can keep the schematic and board layout in windows so I don't

have to clutter my bench with papers. Since Eagle has been

autodesked, I can no long do my job using Eagle software.

 

My solution, of course, is KiCAD so it really doesn't matter to me

what AutoDesk does.

You can continue doing your job with the current version of EAGLE which you already own without issue. That license isn't going away just because v8 has been released with a subscription model. You just won't be able to upgrade to v8 on this machine.

Whilst I appreciate people are not happy with EAGLE going subscription based for v8, there is no need for everybody to suddenly migrate all their systems to another package immediately as existing licenses will continue to be valid indefinitely. Yes you might not be willing to use the subscription based version, but there is plenty of time to see how things play out and, if needed, migrate to a package which suits your needs better.

John DeArmond wrote:

 

Now I can keep the schematic and board layout in windows so I don't

have to clutter my bench with papers. Since Eagle has been

autodesked, I can no long do my job using Eagle software.

 

My solution, of course, is KiCAD so it really doesn't matter to me

what AutoDesk does.

You can continue doing your job with the current version of EAGLE which you already own without issue. That license isn't going away just because v8 has been released with a subscription model. You just won't be able to upgrade to v8 on this machine.

Whilst I appreciate people are not happy with EAGLE going subscription based for v8, there is no need for everybody to suddenly migrate all their systems to another package immediately as existing licenses will continue to be valid indefinitely. Yes you might not be willing to use the subscription based version, but there is plenty of time to see how things play out and, if needed, migrate to a package which suits your needs better.

On 01/22/2017 01:24 PM, rachaelp wrote:

 

Whilst I appreciate people are not happy with EAGLE going subscription based for v8, there is no need for everybody to suddenly migrate all their systems to another package immediately as existing licenses will continue to be valid indefinitely. Yes you might not be willing to use the subscription based version, but there is plenty of time to see how things play out and, if needed, migrate to a package which suits your needs better.

Well spaketh!

I'm not switching to Kicad - I have too much invested in Eagle to do

something as brash as changing CAD programs.  However, I will have to

live with v7.7 for some time.

Enjoy,

    - Chuck