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EAGLE License Recommendat ion

autodeskguest
autodeskguest over 8 years ago

Hello Autodesk (specifically Matt),

 

In your last post about the path forward for EAGLE Make licenses, you

maintain that a "Paid" license (i.e. one that you are paying a subscription

for) will only function for 14 days without an internet connection.

 

I think that Autodesk has underestimated how much of an issue this will be,

especially for professional design houses.  These design houses are

important as they support, and encourage, EAGLE to be used in a

professional manner.  The recommendation from a design house to new

companies/clients go a long way to creating new customers for EAGLE (I know

Stratford Digital has influenced many companies to get an EAGLE license

because that is what we recommended, Olin has stated the same for his

company).

 

I think the main issue is that we professionals need our current version of

EAGLE to run forever.  But I think there is a path forward with a small

tweak.  I would love it if Matt could respond to this suggestion:

 

EAGLE License Recommendation

 

No one has an issue with requiring the internet on installation or

upgrading of EAGLE.  If a subscription is valid then either of these is

allowed.  If the subscription is not valid or can't be verified (i.e. no

internet connection) then neither is allowed BUT the software continues to

work indefinitely as it did at the time of the last call home to Autodesk

license server.

 

This means there is still a reason to pay subscription cost:

active support access to new features with new versions

 

This allows for the support that professionals will need to be able to

prove can be provided decades down the road (it happens all the time). It

allows me to create a virtual machine with a specific version of EAGLE on

it and know that in the future that software will work as it did during the

initial project development.  It also allows for use in walled-off security

environments.

 

We also need a method (officially supported) of having multiple versions of

EAGLE on the same computer at the same time with the ability to configure

each install to update or not automatically.  This is absolutely required

as some clients, for various reasons, specify specific versions of EAGLE to

be used.

 

This also puts a burden on Autodesk to make sure that their updates are

significant enough to warrant people continuing subscriptions.  That is a

good thing and will give users some confidence that a subscription is worth

it.  The value of any change since v6.6 is pretty limited, hierarchical

design is a good idea but not fully implemented.  And we're still waiting

on completion of the differential pair routing from v6.  It seems the main

additions since v6.6 is two, unasked for and highly restrictive licensing

changes.  So there isn't a lot of trust in the EAGLE community right now.

Autodesk has said good things but little has been delivered yet.

 

I think the above is a good compromise.  If Matt doesn't agree then please

provide your suggestion as how I am going to be guaranteed to be able to

support projects a decade in the future.  For this argument, "trusting

Autodesk will allow it" will not be accepted as an allowable answer.  It

may be 100% true today but when you leave to retire in the Bahamas or the

entire team is sold off to another global corp the policy can instantly

change (see last 6 months).

 

Cheers,

 

James

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James Morrison  ~~~  Stratford Digital

http://www.stratforddigital.ca

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EAGLE support forums at http://www.eaglecentral.ca :: Where the EAGLE community meets.

 

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  • autodeskguest
    autodeskguest over 8 years ago +1
    James Morrison wrote on Mon, 23 January 2017 13:24 No one has an issue with requiring the internet on installation or upgrading of EAGLE. Almost. I have one customer where I run Eagle on a computer in…
  • Former Member
    Former Member over 8 years ago +1
    Hi James, et. Al -- I've sent a number of variations of this email over the last few days, so let me share it and solicit people's feedback. This is some of what we're doing to make this model a bit more…
  • geralds
    geralds over 8 years ago in reply to Former Member +1
    Hi Matt, This can not be, after expiring the license period that the software will falling down to a free version. The free version is a toy for children, for playing with this at school. I have a small…
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    autodeskguest over 8 years ago

    Any update on this Autodesk?  Matt?

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    James Morrison  ~~~  Stratford Digital

    http://www.stratforddigital.ca

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    EAGLE support forums at http://www.eaglecentral.ca :: Where the EAGLE community meets.

     

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    autodeskguest over 8 years ago

    Any update on this Autodesk?  Matt?

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    James Morrison  ~~~  Stratford Digital

    http://www.stratforddigital.ca

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    EAGLE support forums at http://www.eaglecentral.ca :: Where the EAGLE community meets.

     

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    Former Member over 8 years ago in reply to autodeskguest

    @James...bump.

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    I solve problems.

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