Sneak peek: obstacle avoidance and walk around routing in EAGLE v8...

Am 21.02.2017 um 18:34 schrieb Christy Zurcher:

Autodesk does not own element14. The element14 Community forums continue to partner and link to the CadSoft EAGLE (now Autodesk) forums as we have in the past because the software is of interest to our members.

 

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Thank you Christy for the information

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Joern Paschedag

Autodesk does not own element14. The element14 Community forums continue to partner and link to the CadSoft EAGLE (now Autodesk) forums as we have in the past because the software is of interest to our members.

We would like to buy another Professional/Ultimate license for V7

but it seems that Autodesk doesn want my money...

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EAGLE support forums at http://www.eaglecentral.ca :: Where the EAGLE community meets.

@Gerald ...Just one final point on this:  bus routing is coming.  As is better handling for DDR, length tuning, impedance control, etc.  We've only had the product for 6 months so you'll have to bare with us as we have our work cut out for us.    These are not trivial to build (or I suspect Cadsoft would have built them) but we are committed to building them whilst maintaining a price point consistent with EAGLE in the process. 

Most of what you are asking for requires a mix of routing and rules - including real-time DRC checking - both of which need some work in EAGLE to make this a reality.  We are working our way thru these items and will continue to deliver features around routing for quite some time. 

Best regards,

Matt - Autodesk.

@Gerald  ...Free version includes this router, version 7 does not.  This is something EAGLE has needed for some time and was built by long-time eda ninjas (myself included, having been in this space for 15+ years) with feedback from the EAGLE community.  We are actively working on routing tools at the moment so if you have any feedback what you'd like to see prioritized in this version, we're happy to discuss it.  As I've already said, this isn't a licensing discussion (the model for subscription is being discussed in another post and is here to stay, with along list of changes / concessions we've already made public in that post and delivered on with 8.0.1, as promised.)

If you have any suggestions on routing, here's the place!  Let us know and we'll take them under advisement!

Regards,

Matt - Autodesk.

Am 18.02.2017 um 21:13 schrieb Doug Wellington:

Wait.  What?  I thought EAGLE Central was Stratford Digital...?

 

And what about Element14?  Do you own them too?

 

I still would like to have a clear answer on these questions.

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Joern Paschedag

Hi Matt,

 

 

>Just a (very quick) sneak peek at obstacle avoidance and walk around routing, coming in the new EAGLE version 8! To be sure, the ability to prevent shorts before they happen is critical to EAGLE users' >productivity. This new routing engine, coming in EAGLE v8, follows the design rules and will walk around objects, making you both more productive and less prone to costly errors. What's more, it's fast! This clip > isn't sped up. This isn't "follow me" 2.0. This is a completely new engine with some of the best underlying algorithms in the industry.

 

 

 

>We would love to get feedback on what you need to be more productive in routing your PCBs.

>Your feedback will help us prioritize our development and ensure we release new features in the right sequence (where possible).

>To get the new router, subscribe today! For $100/year, you'll get EAGLE v8 Standard edition, 4-layer commercial license and ensure you get the new router when it's available.

 

This is an old thing. Other tools have it build in as standard since many years.

And we asked many years for this kind of router.

And also more. Where is the button for impedance controlled routing? for bus routing?

We not just have microcontrollers (like your shown example ), but also we have PCB with microprocessors and they have a complex bus structure.

And the free version have not this router?

After expiring the license period the Eagle will falling down to a toy, and then we can not use this router?

It seems all of it grows more and more in a Desaster.

One sentence here one sentence there, then all of us can not follow the concrete reasons or causes.

Best Regards

Gerald

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On 19/02/2017 10:02 a.m., Matt Berggren wrote:

Im not being at all threatening.  I'm saying that we reserve the right to discuss new features and in fact, the OP was where the "threat" came from, veiled as a legal argument for why it wasn't ok to post about new features.  I replied decently and fairly.  Never has anyone challenged the Cadsoft team for posting anything about new features or planned features and soliciting feedback.  Even marketing messages (I'm in Prod Dev btw) have gone largely unchallenged.  This is a forum to discuss EAGLE and we are soliciting feedback on a version of EAGLE that i both released and in continuous development.  This is the new version of EAGLE we are discussing and not attempting to peddle 'foundation garments'.

 

Please afford autodesk the same courtesy you would Cadsoft as the staff from Cadsoft are all employed with Autodesk today...and do so without taking a position on the legality of a comment you and no one ever in history complained about in the past.  This is unfair and not in the spirit of the community.  There's a separate thread about licensing if that's the central source of your frustrations.  Let's not conflate this discussion with a cross-post about what may in fact be fueling your unpleasantness.

 

Have a great weekend!

 

best regards,

 

Matt

 

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Hi Matt

You have misinterpreted my posting.

I apologise for saying you are tasked in marketing if that is not the

case, I understood that to be the case from earlier threads

My point was, I felt you had breached the globally accepted etiquette

for forums. Simply, it appeared you had not taken care in choosing what

to write.

Perhaps others will have different views but I have never felt, over the

past nine years that I have participated in these forums, any posting by

a Cadsoft employee that was marketing.

Prior to a CadSoft release, information on new features was guarded.

Upon release the web advertising told the story of staring features.

Employee forum postings seemed disciplined and were limited to "Version

released, down load from www.cadsoft..."  or responses to threads that

guided you on where to go to get assistance on editions or pricing.

Hence I think you are right as I don't recall anyone saying the Cadsoft

staffers were misusing the forum for marketing.

Warren

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Matt Berggren wrote on Sat, 18 February 2017 14:02

Im not being at all threatening.

I'm glad for that.  My questions about the ownership of Eagle Central and

Element14 still remain.  While I completely believe that you can do

whatever you wish on the autodesk.com forums and any email list Autodesk

manages, I'm not sure you have the same mandate elsewhere, specifically

these two sites.  Put another way, would you post this kind of thing on

EEVBlog or the EAGLE Yahoo group?

Quote:

Please afford autodesk the same courtesy you would Cadsoft as the staff

from Cadsoft are all employed with Autodesk today... (SNIP) This is

unfair and not in the spirit of the community.

Matt, what do you know of the spirit of our community?  It would be nice if

you would treat those of us who were Cadsoft customers with some courtesy

as well.  We've been around a long time and you have swooped in and pissed

in our punch bowl.

Quote:

Have a great weekend!

Was I just dismissed?  Is that the end of the conversation then?

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EAGLE support forums at http://www.eaglecentral.ca :: Where the EAGLE community meets.

Im not being at all threatening.  I'm saying that we reserve the right to discuss new features and in fact, the OP was where the "threat" came from, veiled as a legal argument for why it wasn't ok to post about new features.  I replied decently and fairly.  Never has anyone challenged the Cadsoft team for posting anything about new features or planned features and soliciting feedback.  Even marketing messages (I'm in Prod Dev btw) have gone largely unchallenged.  This is a forum to discuss EAGLE and we are soliciting feedback on a version of EAGLE that we both released and which is in continuous development.  This is the new version of EAGLE we are discussing and not attempting to peddle 'foundation garments'.

Please afford autodesk the same courtesy you would Cadsoft as the staff from Cadsoft are all employed with Autodesk today...and do so without taking a position on the legality of a comment you and no one ever in history complained about in the past.  This is unfair and not in the spirit of the community.  There's a separate thread about licensing if that's the central source of your frustrations.  Let's not conflate this discussion with a cross-post about what may in fact be fueling your unpleasantness.

Have a great weekend!

best regards,

Matt