On 3/10/2010 2:18 AM, Silviu Epure wrote:
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>> Hi Silviu!
>>
>> I dont think that a gerber viewer is "USELESS" as there are NO GERBER
>> VIEWERS for the MAC.
>> and besides most of the code is already in eagle cad, it knows how to
>> generate the plotting data, its probably very similar to the PCB Layout
>> code anyhow, So an integrated viewer would make sense.
>> If we had TABBED STYLED Editor you could have SCHEMATIC/BAORD/BOM/GERBERS
>> as tab heading and switch between them.
>> thanks
>> Dave M
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>
I agree with tabbed GUI. And I'm not bothered if Eagle could display gerberfiles.
I agree with tabbed GUI. And I'm not bothered if Eagle could display gerber
files.
NO NO NO on tabbed interface. We always use multiple monitors.
Since Eagle was separate programs always (long before "tabbed"
anything), I hope there's no chance of tabbed MDI replacing the usefully
unique separate proggrams.
On 07.07.10 2:57 AM, MB wrote:
abbed interface. We always use multiple monitors.
Since Eagle was separate programs always (long before "tabbed"anything), I hope there's no chance of tabbed MDI replacing the usefullyunique separate proggrams.
I also use a dual monitor setup and I agree that a restriction to tabs
will be counterproductive. However the tab interface can be an option
and user could separate the tabs into distinct windows by drag and
drop(like internet browsers).
"MB" <mike@brenden.com> wrote in message
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>> "davem"<imix@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
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>>> Hi Silviu!
>>>
>>> I dont think that a gerber viewer is "USELESS" as there are NO GERBER
>>> VIEWERS for the MAC.
>>> and besides most of the code is already in eagle cad, it knows how to
>>> generate the plotting data, its probably very similar to the PCB Layout
>>> code anyhow, So an integrated viewer would make sense.
>>> If we had TABBED STYLED Editor you could have
>>> SCHEMATIC/BAORD/BOM/GERBERS
>>> as tab heading and switch between them.
>>> thanks
>>> Dave M
>>> --
>>> Browser access to CadSoft Support Forums at http://www.eaglecentral.ca
>> I agree with tabbed GUI. And I'm not bothered if Eagle could display
>> gerber
>> files.
Since Eagle was separate programs always (long before "tabbed" anything), I hope there's no chance of tabbed MDI replacing the usefully unique separate proggrams.
Since Eagle was separate programs always (long before "tabbed" anything),
I hope there's no chance of tabbed MDI replacing the usefully unique
separate proggrams.
There are many software packages that uses tabs. And that tabs are
detachable!!! (see google chrome for example)
So, there is a solution for everyone.
I was thinking about this problem too, and I don't consider Cadsoft
developpers capable to do such thing, in the next 5 years. just my opinion.
Marius Trusculescu wrote on Wed, 07 July 2010 01:57
However the tab interface can be an option and user could separate the tabs into distinct windows by drag and drop(like internet browsers).
However the tab interface can be an option
It could be, but how much is there really to gain? I can think of many
better things for the CadSoft developers to spend their time on, especially
since there are already fast and easy mechanisms for switching between
Eagle windows. For example, ALT-F W switches back and forth between the
schematic and board editors. That's so much easier than clicking on a tab
that I'd continue to use it instead of a tab anyway. Other Eagle windows
are also OS windows, with their existing mechanisms for switching between
them, like ALT-Esc on Windows for example.
If CadSoft does implement tabbed windows, I really hope they make that
optional so I don't have to wast the pixels on the tabs above the windows.
I'd rather get a better view of my schematic or board than a row of tabs
which I'll never use.
Can we stick to asking for real circuit-related features instead of this
fluff?
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On 2010-03-10 08:39:48 +0100, Oliver Betz <obetz@despammed.com> said:
>> Because I use a MAC there are NO GERBER viewers available. ( that I know of
Me too. I have searched.
I knew about http://gerbv.gpleda.org/index.html , but
Gerbv. I have several Finck and MacPorts packages compiled form source
here, something Mac user never have to do and most can't. I can get
Gerbv to display anything.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gerberviewermac reveals more.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gerberviewermac
reveals more.
Indeed. But they don't work. This one, for instance:
http://www.brothersoft.com/gerber-viewer-for-mac-download-197933.html
This may sound silly, but experienced Mac users expect more. The site
of these guys scares 99% of Mac users, and rightly so. A developer that
makes ugly sites like this, will naver make a good Mac program.
This one does work:
http://www.mcn-audio.com/sharewares/index.html
At least on 10.4.11 and a G5.
Thank you.
Eur van Andel eur@fiwihex.nl
Eur van Andel wrote:
>>> Because I use a MAC there are NO GERBER viewers available. ( that I know of
>Me too. I have searched.
That's bad for the Mac users.
Nevertheless I think a Gerber viewer should be a separate application.
It's to check Eagle output, isn't it? So it should be done from a
3rd party.
You can still use a Windows installation in a virtual machine.
Oliver
Oliver Betz wrote on Tue, 13 July 2010 11:09
Eur van Andel wrote: Nevertheless I think a Gerber viewer should be a separate application.It's to check Eagle output, isn't it? So it should be done from a3rd party. You can still use a Windows installation in a virtual machine. Oliver
Totally Totally Totally Agree re the 3rd party Gerber viewer.
I've used to use gerbv on mac, after installing fink, but forgot exactly
how I did it... fink was a bit of a pain. Really, it'd be nice if someone
posted a howto on the most straightforward way to get Gerbv working on a
mac.
faveluka wrote on Tue, 13 July 2010 12:36
Quote:
Nevertheless I think a Gerber viewer should be a separateapplication. It's to check Eagle output, isn't it? So it should bedone from a 3rd party.
Nevertheless I think a Gerber viewer should be a separate
application. It's to check Eagle output, isn't it? So it should be
done from a 3rd party.
Me too.
There are plenty of Eagle enhancement I can think of that free third party
tools don't provide. A gerber viewer isn't one of them.
"Olin Lathrop" <eagle@embedinc.com> wrote in message
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>> Quote:
>> > Nevertheless I think a Gerber viewer should be a separate
>> > application. It's to check Eagle output, isn't it? So it should be
>> > done from a 3rd party.
>> Totally Totally Totally Agree re the 3rd party Gerber viewer.
There are plenty of Eagle enhancement I can think of that free third partytools don't provide. A gerber viewer isn't one of them.--
do you use "print preview" option in printing dialog?!
We need such feature for gerber files too. It's the first feedback when you
generate the fabrication files.
Maybe CAM processor should display a preview for what will do, just to
confirme us that it's doing what we want CAM to do
eSilviu wrote on Wed, 14 July 2010 02:39
Not really, not from Eagle anyway.
We need such feature for gerber files too.
So go to the Pentalogix site or one of the others and download a free
gerber viewer.
It's the first feedback when you generate the fabrication files.Maybe CAM processor should display a preview for what will do, just to confirme us that it's doing what we want CAM to do
It's the first feedback when you
There is no problem to solve here. I have never seen Eagle make a mistake
in writing out gerber files. I have occasionally made mistakes where I put
something in the wrong layer or wrote the wrong set of layers out to a
gerber file. Those errors are quite rare, so catching them when checking
the gerber files via a independent third party program is no problem. You
fix it, rerun the CAM job, and check again.
If you're frequently making these kinds of mistakes then you should take a
little time to learn the CAM processor better. Make a few canned CAM jobs
for the things you usually do. For example, I have canned CAM files for
two layer boards and 4 layer boards.
Another thing that helps me a lot is a checklist for going from a Eagle
board to a board house ZIP file. Yes, this is actually written down. I
refer to it every time I make a board house package. The checklist is
actually in the header comments of the script that helps automate binding
together all the relevant files into a board house ZIP file.
