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Problem on 0402 package

Former Member
Former Member over 15 years ago

Hello,

 

the company which mounts my boards complains about EAGLE 0402 package.

They say "the pads are too much large" and a lot of components are lost

during the soldering (reflow) due to the "tombstoning" effect.

 

I'm wondering if anyone ran through this problem, because I'm sure the

EAGLE library is ok.

 

Anyway, I don't know what tell them. In fact, they ask me a charge for

new components and manual soldering (it means it's my mistake).

 

Marco

 

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  • icefield
    icefield over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member +1
    The IPC standard for 0402 has been revised because the pads were too large. See for example http://edit.news.cmg.net/pnneditorial/imagepath/101/0000101666_70_79681.pdf (top of page 4). If Eagle used the…
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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 15 years ago

    They say "the pads are too much large" and a lot of components are lost

     

    Can it be compared to Cream area, like Cream "hole" not same as pad size.

     

    In DRC | Masks | Cream, my Cream settings are 0mil, ie not extra area for

    cream

    Maybe could be check with gerber viewer or reading gerber files.

     

    Also 0402 can come from different libraries, like rcl, and other libraries.

    Is the problem on all 0402 or only some kind of them (resitors only)

     

    If problem is too less solderpaste on board, maybe the boardhouse has

    ordered too thin a pastemask for production.

     

    Just my thoughts...

     

    Christen

     

     

     

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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 15 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Il 02/08/2010 15.41, Christen Fihl ha scritto:

     

    Can it be compared to Cream area, like Cream "hole" not same as pad size.

    >

    In DRC | Masks | Cream, my Cream settings are 0mil, ie not extra area for

    cream

    Maybe could be check with gerber viewer or reading gerber files.

     

     

    The same applies here.

     

     

    Also 0402 can come from different libraries, like rcl, and other libraries.

    Is the problem on all 0402 or only some kind of them (resitors only)

     

     

    For all components (resistors and capacitors).

     

     

    If problem is too less solderpaste on board, maybe the boardhouse has

    ordered too thin a pastemask for production.

     

     

    If I'm not wrong they told me there was too much solderpaste so the

    components moved from their position.

     

    Marco

     

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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 15 years ago in reply to Former Member

    If I'm not wrong they told me there was too much solderpaste so the

    components moved from their position.

     

    What can too much paste do?

    1) Spread to other pads?

    2) ??

     

    The solder should hold the components in place, if they get into contact

    with each others. The surface tension will pull components into center

     

    I have had same problem (tombstone) in my home office (50$ oven in the

    garden), as some resistors only soldered on one end, leaving the other end

    up in the air.

    Here my solder paste might have dried out a bit before mounting components,

    so they did not get into contact, or I simply did not press them firmly

    enough onto the board (into the solderpaste).

     

    PS: I have not worked with 0402, smallest are 0805, as I do my own

    prototypes, and I am getting older...

     

    I would check my pad size, and ask what size the company request. Too-much

    is not that precise specification image

     

     

     

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    Former Member over 15 years ago in reply to Former Member

    If I'm not wrong they told me there was too much solderpaste so the

    components moved from their position.

     

    What can too much paste do?

    1) Spread to other pads?

    2) ??

     

    The solder should hold the components in place, if they get into contact

    with each others. The surface tension will pull components into center

     

    I have had same problem (tombstone) in my home office (50$ oven in the

    garden), as some resistors only soldered on one end, leaving the other end

    up in the air.

    Here my solder paste might have dried out a bit before mounting components,

    so they did not get into contact, or I simply did not press them firmly

    enough onto the board (into the solderpaste).

     

    PS: I have not worked with 0402, smallest are 0805, as I do my own

    prototypes, and I am getting older...

     

    I would check my pad size, and ask what size the company request. Too-much

    is not that precise specification image

     

     

     

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