Beer for eagle users

"Owen" <old62buick@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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now that I have your attention ,

I'd like to ask my question one more time:

Pertaining to the Eagle attributes described below, how does one access

any

of these attributes? I have tried to understand but I simply don't...

There

have been a couple of discussions on this forum about attributes, but I

can't find something that will help me.

 

If I want to have access to say, PARTNUM, how do I do this? Is it through

the info window of a part? Or is it by modifying a device in the library?

I think much of the confusion on Eagle attributes is all the different

levels it supports.

You can DEFINE attributes to parts at part editor, and have a default value

set. I prefer this way.

You can also DEFINE attributes to a single parts at schematics level. This

is a bit risky, as you need to be an expert to know what happens if you

update it or delete it again. Changing attribute values must be done at this

level of course, but defining is like offroading on the highway.

To add even more confusion, old attributes like "name" and "value" is not

really a part of this attribute system. It should be, together with package

type, angle and so on. Maybe even position.

And also, you can have global attributes to sch and brd which is not

connected, even if they have the same name.

I assume all these issues will be addressed in next version..

Now, where is my beer?

Morten Leikvoll wrote on Thu, 21 July 2011 04:36

"Owen" <<private_email>> wrote in message

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To add even more confusion, old attributes like "name" and "value" is

not

really a part of this attribute system. It should be, together with

package

type, angle and so on. Maybe even position.

 

And also, you can have global attributes to sch and brd which is not

connected, even if they have the same name.

 

I assume all these issues will be addressed in next version..

 

Now, where is my beer?

LOL!!!  Well, I was wondering when someone would say something!

Actually I wouldn't have means to supply beer at a distance but I do thank

you for help, as well as others.

I guess I know now that an attribute field that's added in the part editor

cannot be filled in by the user at schematic placement, which sucks for

anything like resistors, capacitors and inductors.

The problem with using BOM.ulp is that it isn't the BOM ulp we use. Someone

modified the BOM ulp (most liekely) and renamed it to the one we are using

now, and backtracking his work (or him) is not an option. I cannot start

using BOM.ulp because it doesn't do what our "Telebom" ulp does. I can try

it just for the sake of trying it and seeing, but eventually I will need to

access the attributes from the Device info window.

DaveM was talking about several Keystrokes and mouseclicks to change this

attributee, saying it was too much work. I'd liek to know exactly what is

involved.  Then I can see if it's worth it.

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Morten Leikvoll wrote on Thu, 21 July 2011 04:36

"Owen" <<private_email>> wrote in message

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To add even more confusion, old attributes like "name" and "value" is

not

really a part of this attribute system. It should be, together with

package

type, angle and so on. Maybe even position.

 

And also, you can have global attributes to sch and brd which is not

connected, even if they have the same name.

 

I assume all these issues will be addressed in next version..

 

Now, where is my beer?

LOL!!!  Well, I was wondering when someone would say something!

Actually I wouldn't have means to supply beer at a distance but I do thank

you for help, as well as others.

I guess I know now that an attribute field that's added in the part editor

cannot be filled in by the user at schematic placement, which sucks for

anything like resistors, capacitors and inductors.

The problem with using BOM.ulp is that it isn't the BOM ulp we use. Someone

modified the BOM ulp (most liekely) and renamed it to the one we are using

now, and backtracking his work (or him) is not an option. I cannot start

using BOM.ulp because it doesn't do what our "Telebom" ulp does. I can try

it just for the sake of trying it and seeing, but eventually I will need to

access the attributes from the Device info window.

DaveM was talking about several Keystrokes and mouseclicks to change this

attributee, saying it was too much work. I'd liek to know exactly what is

involved.  Then I can see if it's worth it.

--

Web access to CadSoft support forums at www.eaglecentral.ca.  Where the CadSoft EAGLE community meets.

"Owen" <old62buick@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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I guess I know now that an attribute field that's added in the part editor

cannot be filled in by the user at schematic placement, which sucks for

anything like resistors, capacitors and inductors.

Im not sure if you misunderstood that.. Attributes can be DEFINED and EDITED

anywhere (of course they can only be given a common value at device editor).

The cleanest way is to DEFINE them at part editor and change value (if you

want non default) at sch level.

 

LOL!!!  Well, I was wondering when someone would say something!

Actually I wouldn't have means to supply beer at a distance but I do

thank you for help, as well as others.

I guess I know now that an attribute field that's added in the part

editor cannot be filled in by the user at schematic placement, which

sucks for anything like resistors, capacitors and inductors.

The problem with using BOM.ulp is that it isn't the BOM ulp we use.

Someone modified the BOM ulp (most liekely) and renamed it to the one

we are using now, and backtracking his work (or him) is not an

option. I cannot start using BOM.ulp because it doesn't do what our

"Telebom" ulp does. I can try it just for the sake of trying it and

seeing, but eventually I will need to access the attributes from the

Device info window.

 

DaveM was talking about several Keystrokes and mouseclicks to change

this attributee, saying it was too much work. I'd liek to know

exactly what is involved.  Then I can see if it's worth it.

You are still saying things and asking questions that suggest you have not

read the manual. You will find it in the docs folder of your Eagke

installation.

Warren