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Re: import image into GND plane?

e14 Contributor
e14 Contributor over 14 years ago

Quote:

Your posts lack the references to the previous posts, that's why they

appear to start a new thread here in the newsgroups. Maybe you used

"new

message" instead of "reply", maybe the web forum gateway is broken

again... :-\

 

 

Im 90% sure I used reply ..on my screen All my posts in this forum appear

in the only thread I have made since joining ..I always return to my posts

several times to check spelling/clarity so I would probably notice if I

created a new thread

 

Quote:

On the topic:

At least for me it's still unclear as to what your problem is. Perhaps

you can also provide an image about how it appears in gerbv. You might

also upload a board file containing a test case with your imported

bitmap and then post a link so we can have a look at your data.

 

based on this comment I think the forum has a problem of some kind ..I was

surprised when Morten Leikvoll asked me for screenshots because I had

already posted 'self-explanatory screenshots' in my first post and then

posted them again in reply to Morten ...I though you were warning me

because I had posted the same screenshots twice ..and now your asking for

screenshots..I'm guessing you cant see Any of the pics I've posted?

 

offtopic:

I can post screenshots of this thread to help troubleshoot the issue ..but

will you be able to see them? image

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    e14 Contributor over 14 years ago

    tuk schrieb:

     

    Quote:

    >> Your posts lack the references to the previous posts, that's why they

    >> appear to start a new thread here in the newsgroups. Maybe you used

    >> "new

    >> message" instead of "reply", maybe the web forum gateway is broken

    >> again... :-\

     

    Im 90% sure I used reply ..on my screen All my posts in this forum appear

    in the only thread I have made since joining ..I always return to my posts

    several times to check spelling/clarity so I would probably notice if I

    created a new thread

     

    Well, this message starts yet another thread - while your previous reply

    to my message referenced that correctly. image

     

    Quote:

    >> On the topic:

    >> At least for me it's still unclear as to what your problem is. Perhaps

    >> you can also provide an image about how it appears in gerbv. You might

    >> also upload a board file containing a test case with your imported

    >> bitmap and then post a link so we can have a look at your data.

     

    based on this comment I think the forum has a problem of some kind

     

    Yes, that web gateway still has "some problems of some kind"... :-\

     

    What about using a decent news client (Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, Forte

    Agent, etc.) and access the newsgroups directly? Note that even when

    accessing the "forums" at eaglecentral.ca, you are not really using a

    forum - instead, it's just a (somewhat buggy) web based frontend to the

    newsgroups.

     

    ..I was

    surprised when Morten Leikvoll asked me for screenshots because I had

    already posted 'self-explanatory screenshots' in my first post and then

    posted them again in reply to Morten ...I though you were warning me

    because I had posted the same screenshots twice ..and now your asking for

    screenshots..I'm guessing you cant see Any of the pics I've posted?

     

    There simply was no "first post" here. Your first post visible in the

    newsgroup seemingly is a reply already (starting with Re: in the

    subject). Eventually, your attachment was larger than the size limit

    (50k?) for the newsgroups so it didn't get through.

     

    The (probably) second screenshot is visible - but from that, at least I

    can't see what your problem is. There is an imported logo, obviously

    importing it has worked. Fine - but what's the problem with the gerber data?

     

    offtopic:

    I can post screenshots of this thread to help troubleshoot the issue ..but

    will you be able to see them? image

     

    You'd better upload your images and post a link.

     

    Tilmann

     

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    e14 Contributor over 14 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    This has been a messy thread. A few observations looking at it with

    newsreader and browser.

     

    The initial post was not accepted by Newsgroup as it was over 50kB.

    Interestingly (the first time I have seen this) although James reconfigured

    EagleCentral to not accept files over 50k and limited to three attachments,

    you can add many 49kB files so that's why it was rejected by Newsgroup as

    there was 116kB of attachments.

     

    A trap with NNTP is that the 50kB appears to be the whole message and not

    the attachment limit so a 49.6kB attachment at EagleCentral won't  get

    through due to the text ,message and wrapper text exceeding 50k in total.

    A later  post did not get to the Newsgroup. It had a sigle 45.88kB

    attachment.

     

    The first message the newsgroup saw, the second post when viewed at

    EagleCentral has an imbeded image. Strangely this image appears to have been

    attached to the first message. James needs to look into this.

     

    Subsequent posts have images imbedded. These don't pass through to the

    newsgroup. Something more for James.

     

    Stop Press: An now tuk- has posted all the images again, which did not reach

    the newsgroup  because the total is 180kB

     

    TUK- It is web ediquit to compress/optimise your images before attaching.

    Get a app like 'Image Optimiser'  and your screen shots can be squashed  to

    a more manageble size. Had you done this, all your images would have got

    through.

     

    I did not see apparent new threads as Tilmann saw.

     

    Regards

    Warren

     

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    Viewed / responded via the newsgroup at

    news.cadsoft.de

     

     

     

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    e14 Contributor over 14 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    Warren Brayshaw schrieb:

     

    A trap with NNTP is that the 50kB appears to be the whole message and not

    the attachment limit so a 49.6kB attachment at EagleCentral won't  get

    through due to the text ,message and wrapper text exceeding 50k in total.

     

    That's logical since in newsgroups, all attachments are transported in

    the message body - and due to encoding the size increases about 20%.

     

    TUK- It is web ediquit to compress/optimise your images before attaching.

    Get a app like 'Image Optimiser'  and your screen shots can be squashed  to

    a more manageble size. Had you done this, all your images would have got

    through.

     

    I can strongly recommend the Faststone Image Viewer as the perfect

    all-purpose tool for everything related to images.

     

    I did not see apparent new threads as Tilmann saw.

     

    See the attached image. The screenshot shows the first post of tuk

    appearing in the newsgroup, and all the subsequent new threads fully

    expanded.

     

    Maybe your OE is configured so that it automatically combines threads

    that have the same subject line? In fact, those posts by tuk don't have

    the usual "references" header, so they are not correctly related to the

    existing thread. Maybe this is a result of the first post missing, so

    the gateway couldn't detect the message to reference in first place?

     

    My newsclient also provides that option, but it's better to leave it

    unchecked. Otherwise, posts with more common subjects (i.e. "I have a

    question") are sorted as reply to some old post that randomly had the

    same subject.

     

    (And while we're at it, you could consider installing Quotefix...)

     

    Tilmann

     

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    e14 Contributor over 14 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    Warren Brayshaw schrieb:

     

    >> I can strongly recommend the Faststone Image Viewer as the perfect

    >> all-purpose tool for everything related to images.

     

    I had a look at  Faststone Image Viewer

    It does not appear to be able to compress images. I see it can

    resize/resample but not optimise for a smaller file size. Have I missed it?.

     

    You already found it by yourself...

     

    Besides, it's essential to choose the right file format. JPEG is only

    fine for photos, for screenshots of menus or technical content PNG is

    much more effective (with reduced number of colors to further shrink the

    files) - and also better to read (lacks the compression artefacts).

     

    >> (And while we're at it, you could consider installing Quotefix...)

     

    It is installed already from your previous advice, thanks  Although I

    replied to a post, I did erase everything and not quote any of  it. Are you

    seeing something amiss?

     

    Your second post on the "boycott" issue (18.09.) contains some broken

    quotes (lines wrapped after quoting).

     

    Tilmann

     

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    e14 Contributor over 14 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    Warren Brayshaw schrieb:

     

    >> I can strongly recommend the Faststone Image Viewer as the perfect

    >> all-purpose tool for everything related to images.

     

    I had a look at  Faststone Image Viewer

    It does not appear to be able to compress images. I see it can

    resize/resample but not optimise for a smaller file size. Have I missed it?.

     

    You already found it by yourself...

     

    Besides, it's essential to choose the right file format. JPEG is only

    fine for photos, for screenshots of menus or technical content PNG is

    much more effective (with reduced number of colors to further shrink the

    files) - and also better to read (lacks the compression artefacts).

     

    >> (And while we're at it, you could consider installing Quotefix...)

     

    It is installed already from your previous advice, thanks  Although I

    replied to a post, I did erase everything and not quote any of  it. Are you

    seeing something amiss?

     

    Your second post on the "boycott" issue (18.09.) contains some broken

    quotes (lines wrapped after quoting).

     

    Tilmann

     

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