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Trying to add PLCC68 socket from the smd-special.lbr

konsolkongen
konsolkongen over 9 years ago

Hi. I'm new to Eagle. I know the very basics of how to use it, but I have some problems adding a part to my board. I wan't to add a PLCC68 socket, which is included in the smd-special library. I just want the empty socked and I can wire up all the connections manually.

 

However, the socket cannot be found when in schematics mode, where I would normally add it. I can only find it when in board design, and there I'm not allowed to add it. I get the error "Can't backannotate this operation. Please do this in the schematic!", which as I said is not possible because the part does not show up there.

 

Can I seriously not just add an unnamed socket to my board and have me wire up the connections manually? Do I really have to create a whole new part with every pin predefined? That would be insane, and incredibly frustrating for a newcomer like myself. I could see myself end up using hours figuring that out image

 

The specific part I'm trying to add is PLCC-68 SMTL-TT. It's for a Motorola 68000 on a Neo Geo MV-1C.

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  • konsolkongen
    konsolkongen over 9 years ago in reply to shabaz +1
    Thanks again. I'll take a look at a guide, and hopefully I'll be able to figure it out in no time
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    0 autodeskguest over 9 years ago

    Am 21.09.2016 um 00:01 schrieb Paul Romanyszyn:

    On 09/20/2016 05:13 PM, Martin Larsen wrote:

    Hi. I'm new to Eagle. I know the very basics of how to use it, but I

    have some problems adding a part to my board. I wan't to add a PLCC68

    socket, which is included in the smd-special library. I just want the

    empty socked and I can wire up all the connections manually.

     

    However, the socket cannot be found when in schematics mode, where I

    would normally add it. I can only find it when in board design, and

    there I'm not allowed to add it. I get the error "Can't backannotate

    this operation. Please do this in the schematic!", which as I said is

    not possible because the part does not show up there.

     

    Can I seriously not just add an unnamed socket to my board and have me

    wire up the connections manually? Do I really have to create a whole

    new part with every pin predefined? That would be insane, and

    incredibly frustrating for a newcomer like myself. I could see myself

    end up using hours figuring that out image

     

    The specific part I'm trying to add is PLCC-68 SMTL-TT. It's for a

    Motorola 68000 on a Neo Geo MV-1C.

     

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    To view any images and attachments in this post, visit:

    https://www.element14.com/community/message/206071

     

    Yes you need to make or use a schematic symbol with 68 pins and have

    that connected to the pads for layout. Then add your connections in the

    schematic.

     

    Or you can start with just a board and no schematic. In this mode you

    can just add pads and traces. You still need to assign the same net name

    to the pads you want to connect.

    It is best to learn how to make parts and use a schematic with the

    correct port names on the pins in the schematic.

    Paul R.

     

    The "usual" way of doing a project is to draw a schematics and then

    layout the board.

    However if you just want to wire a few sockets together then you don't

    need a schematic at all.

    Just open a board throw your sockets on it and wire them together.

    There are no electrical rules checks possible of course.

     

    --

    Mit freundlichen Grüßen / With best regards

     

    Joern Paschedag

     

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    0 konsolkongen over 9 years ago in reply to autodeskguest

    But like I said in my first post, this does not seem to work. I can find the socket in board view, but I'm not able to add it. Does this work for you? I have mentioned the specific part and library in my first post.

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    0 konsolkongen over 9 years ago in reply to autodeskguest

    But like I said in my first post, this does not seem to work. I can find the socket in board view, but I'm not able to add it. Does this work for you? I have mentioned the specific part and library in my first post.

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  • autodeskguest
    0 autodeskguest over 9 years ago in reply to konsolkongen

    Hi

     

    You can create a board without a schematic but you must only have a board

    editor open and not a schematic editor also because if they are

    'consistent' (forward and back annotation is active and in play) you won't

    be able to add footprints to the board. FYI - These footprints are called

    elements on the board but called packages in the library.

     

    The exception to having the two editors open is once the schematic/board

    have become inconsistent (different),once acknowledged, Eagle will not

    consider the other and it is as if the other is not open.

     

    So now you have only a board open you can add packages to it.

    After the packages have been added you use the 'Signal' function to

    logically connect the pads/smd. This will draw an air-wire between your

    connection points so you can see what needs connecting with copper traces.

     

    Next you use the route command to route between the pads/smd. Having placed

    the signal wires previously you now can take advantage of some of the Eagle

    magic. Routing snaps to the nearby pads and even if you do not finish a

    route, the air wire reminds you what needs doing. Use the ratsnest function

    often in this case and the air-wires will be recalculated making it clear

    to you the routing that remains. Remember it can only inform you thus if

    you have informed eagle of all the electrical connections you desire by

    using the signal functionality.

     

    HTH

    Warren

     

     

     

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    Web access to CadSoft support forums at www.eaglecentral.ca.  Where the CadSoft EAGLE community meets.

     

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    0 konsolkongen over 9 years ago in reply to autodeskguest

    Thanks, opening the board view first I am indeed able to add the socket, and wire it manually. I was not aware that opening a schematic first would prevent me from doing this image

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