Eagle upgrade costs

It's $119 if you are in the UK.  And that excludes VAT.

Does the 160cm^2 size allow a board of, for example, 5cm x 30cm or is dimensionally restricted?

(Having seen how easy it is to migrate to KiCad I'm not sure even this is worth the money.)

On 2/14/2017 5:25 AM, Steve Kale wrote:

$119 if you are in the UK.

 

Does the 160cm^2 size allow a board of, for example, 5cm x 30cm or is dimensionally restricted?

 

(Having seen how easy it is to migrate to KiCad I'm not sure even this is worth the money.)

 

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Hi Steve,

I hope you're doing well. The area limitation is based on area so 5cm x

30cm would work just fine. Under the previous licensing mechanism it was

restricted to a fixed 16cm x 10cm board.

Hope this helps.

Let me know if there's anything else I can do for you.

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Jorge Garcia wrote:

I hope you're doing well. The area limitation is based on area so 5cm x 30cm

would work just fine. Under the previous licensing mechanism it was restricted

to a fixed 16cm x 10cm board.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Let me know if there's anything else I can do for you.

Yes,

Back to my comment:  Why don't negative coordinates work?

Jorge Garcia wrote:

I hope you're doing well. The area limitation is based on area so 5cm x 30cm

would work just fine. Under the previous licensing mechanism it was restricted

to a fixed 16cm x 10cm board.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Let me know if there's anything else I can do for you.

Yes,

Back to my comment:  Why don't negative coordinates work?

On 2/15/2017 1:48 AM, Antti Louko wrote:

Jorge Garcia wrote:

 

I hope you're doing well. The area limitation is based on area so 5cm x 30cm

would work just fine. Under the previous licensing mechanism it was restricted

to a fixed 16cm x 10cm board.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Let me know if there's anything else I can do for you.

 

Yes,

 

Back to my comment:  Why don't negative coordinates work?

 

Hi Antti,

EAGLE still enforces size limited by requiring that you stay in the

positive x and y axes.

You can use a relative origin to define a center for boards where you

would want the center of the board to be, you can then reference all of

the coordinates to that relative origin.

That's how it works right now.

Let me know if there's anything else I can do for you.

Best Regards,

Jorge Garcia

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Jorge Garcia wrote:

EAGLE still enforces size limited by requiring that you stay in the positive x

and y axes.

 

You can use a relative origin to define a center for boards where you would want

the center of the board to be, you can then reference all of the coordinates to

that relative origin.

It doesn't really help as Info still gives just absolute coordinates and not

relative coordinates!  And I cannot place a component with Info dialog with

relative coordinates, or is it possible?

That's how it works right now.

It would be really easy to fix:

Instead of

if ((max_x*2 + max_y*2) > limit)

     goto bummer;

just code:

if (((max_x-min_x)*2 + (max_y-min_y)*2) > limit)

     goto bummer;

Current limitation is just lazy coding.

Let me know if there's anything else I can do for you.

Get this fixed, please.  As it is now, the feature presentation "Includes 99

schematic sheets, 4 signal layers, and 160 cm2 board area" is misleading.

On 2/15/2017 6:10 PM, Antti Louko wrote:

Jorge Garcia wrote:

 

EAGLE still enforces size limited by requiring that you stay in the positive x

and y axes.

 

You can use a relative origin to define a center for boards where you would want

the center of the board to be, you can then reference all of the coordinates to

that relative origin.

 

It doesn't really help as Info still gives just absolute coordinates and not

relative coordinates!  And I cannot place a component with Info dialog with

relative coordinates, or is it possible?

 

That's how it works right now.

 

It would be really easy to fix:

 

Instead of

 

if ((max_x*2 + max_y*2) > limit)

     goto bummer;

 

just code:

 

if (((max_x-min_x)*2 + (max_y-min_y)*2) > limit)

     goto bummer;

 

Current limitation is just lazy coding.

 

Let me know if there's anything else I can do for you.

 

Get this fixed, please.  As it is now, the feature presentation "Includes 99

schematic sheets, 4 signal layers, and 160 cm2 board area" is misleading.

 

Hello Antti,

Moving components through the info dialog can get old kind of quick. You

can't specify relative coordinates in the Info dialog, however you can

specify relative locations easily following this procedure:

1. Left-Click Move icon

2. Left-Click on part, it will now be floating on your mouse cursor.

3. Type (R x-loc y-loc) and then hit enter. Where x-loc and y-loc are

the coordinates of the location you want referenced to the relative origin.

Hope this helps,

Jorge Garcia

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Jorge Garcia wrote:

On 2/15/2017 6:10 PM, Antti Louko wrote:

Jorge Garcia wrote:

Moving components through the info dialog can get old kind of quick. You can't

specify relative coordinates in the Info dialog, however you can specify

relative locations easily following this procedure:

 

1. Left-Click Move icon

2. Left-Click on part, it will now be floating on your mouse cursor.

3. Type (R x-loc y-loc) and then hit enter. Where x-loc and y-loc are the

coordinates of the location you want referenced to the relative origin.

 

Hope this helps,

Using Info dialog for moving relates usually to situations where one wants to

try different values for coordinates, angle and so on, using "Apply" to keep the

dialog open.  The method you present, which is useful for some other situations,

doesn't really help here.

And still, I cannot get the relative coordinates for easy copy for pasting it

elsewhere.

So please fix this.

I paid for one month for testing Eagle 8 and it is expiring soon.  There is

little motivation to pay more.

Using Info dialog for moving relates usually to situations where one wants to

try different values for coordinates, angle and so on, using "Apply" to keep the

dialog open.  The method you present, which is useful for some other situations,

doesn't really help here.

 

And still, I cannot get the relative coordinates for easy copy for pasting it

elsewhere.

 

So please fix this.

 

I paid for one month for testing Eagle 8 and it is expiring soon.  There is

little motivation to pay more.

 

 

Hi Antti,

Thanks for your feedback, what you are asking for a is a new feature and

not a fix.

The INFO dialog always works with the absolute origin. I'll create an

enhancement request so that the info dialog can reference the relative

origin.

Let me know if there's anything else I can do for you.

Best Regards,

Jorge Garcia

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On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 10:03:34 +0100, Joern Paschedag

<jpaschedag@t-online.de> wrote:

AD has not changed electronic components (and can not do it) so that

only eagle v.8 can handle it.

Sure they have.  Try opening a V7 drawing in an earlier version.  You

can't.  That's why I have to keep V4 and up installed on my machine.

The REAL problem comes when you find a project on the net or in a

magazine that you'd like to use some part of.  Saves reinventing the

wheel.  The project is usually posted in the current Eagle format.  So

you have to have that version installed.  And Eagle doesn't let one

back-port to an earlier version so if you want to cut a piece out of

the project schematic and paste it in yours, you're SOL.

Unfortunately owners of acquired smaller companies try to adapt them to

their own scheme and forget the old word "Never change a running system".

SOP for AutoDesk.  Perhaps some of you CadSoft people can ask around

and find out what AutoDesk did to MoldFlow.   Hint: It isn't pretty!!!

I shall, at least for some time, continue with my perpetual license,

because during the years working with eagle I have developed a lot of

libraries, imho an investment of time that would be lost.

AD stands for their opinion, I  stand for mine.

Goodbye eagle.

My approach is to convert us over to KiCAD now and convert Eagle

library entries only as they are needed.

John

John DeArmond

http://www.neon-john.com

http://www.tnduction.com

Tellico Plains, Occupied TN

See website for email address