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Connect 'Source' signal name to 'GND'

dhofer
dhofer over 7 years ago

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Hello,

I need to attach the 'Source' on the this diode to GND without changing its name but Eagle will not allow me to do so.  I've found older threads that mention creating a 'short' type part to do this.

But, I am wondering if this is made easier with newer version of Eagle?  I'm a maker who has managed to create 2 PCB with Eagle that actually work, but still consider myself an extreme newbie. 

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.


Dave

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  • autodeskguest
    autodeskguest over 7 years ago +2 suggested
    On 10/04/2018 12:25 a.m., dave hofer wrote: Hello, I need to attach the 'Source' on the this diode to GND without changing its name but Eagle will not allow me to do so. I've found older threads that mention…
  • autodeskguest
    autodeskguest over 7 years ago in reply to dhofer +1 suggested
    On 09/04/18 16:01, dave hofer wrote: Werner, I've added a bit more detail from my board layout. Pin 9 is from an arduino pro mini (for reference) and all I am doing here is trigger a MOSFET. Since the…
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    0 autodeskguest over 7 years ago

    On 10/04/2018 12:25 a.m., dave hofer wrote:

     

    Hello,

    I need to attach the 'Source' on the this diode to GND without changing its name but Eagle will not allow me to do so.  I've found older threads that mention creating a 'short' type part to do this.

    But, I am wondering if this is made easier with newer version of Eagle?  I'm a maker who has managed to create 2 PCB with Eagle that actually work, but still consider myself an extreme newbie.

    Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

     

    Dave

     

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    Hi Paul

    A few observations.

     

    If you wish to emulate the layout of the Electronics Hub circuit, then

    you have not achieved that.

     

    (1)  You do not have a common point where the motor, diode and battery

    are connected together as there is in the Electronics Hub circuit.

     

    (2) Your image showing a motor and BAT1 3.7v has a problem. The diode is

    forward biased all the time so even if you remove the MOSFET, current

    will flow in the motor.

     

    (3) If you review the data sheet of the MOSFET you will see it has an

    internal diode that is in parallel with your discrete diode and oriented

    the same way so it would be doing a similar job. You could remove your

    discrete diode and still have the same circuit.

     

    As per the Electronics Hub circuit the diode needs to be across the

    motor and only the motor.

     

    So to keep the same board layout you would have to do the following.

     

    (a) remove the diode from the board as it is across the FET and it

    should be across the motor

     

    (b) Swap the wires going to J1 so the negative of the motor supply is on

    the round pad on the right and the motor negative is on the left square pad.

     

    (c) Mount the diode directly across the motor terminals with the anode

    to the negative terminal

     

     

    Also you need to achieve the equivalent of your white ground wire.

    What you need to do is common the negative of the motor supply with the

    ground of your arduino circuit.

     

    Assuming you have a schematic, change the name of the net attached to J1

    pin 2 to GND. That will make the connection. This assumes your pull down

    resistor is connecting to a ground polygon in the area  and that polygon

    encloses the pads currently connecting to the 'source' net which you

    have just renamed GND.

     

    HTH

    Warren

     

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    0 dhofer over 7 years ago in reply to autodeskguest

    Warren,

     

    Thank you very much for the in depth explanation.  I will adjust my design based on your feedback.

     

    I had no idea how much needed to change.  Believe it or not, this does work, but it sounds like it probably should not.

     

    Since my designs are sort of basic and I'm completely new to Eagle, I have not changed any Net definitions.  Instead, I just change the names at the schematic level.  I need to spend more time understanding how to use nets to my benefit.

     

    Regards,

     

    Dave Hofer

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    0 dhofer over 7 years ago in reply to autodeskguest

    Warren,

     

    Thank you very much for the in depth explanation.  I will adjust my design based on your feedback.

     

    I had no idea how much needed to change.  Believe it or not, this does work, but it sounds like it probably should not.

     

    Since my designs are sort of basic and I'm completely new to Eagle, I have not changed any Net definitions.  Instead, I just change the names at the schematic level.  I need to spend more time understanding how to use nets to my benefit.

     

    Regards,

     

    Dave Hofer

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