Embed Colour Palette into Board File

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until it's solved, I consider this a bug!

"James Morrison" <spam2@stratforddigital.ca> wrote in message

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Hello,

 

For EAGLE to become more accepted into the professional ranks, it is

important that it is easy to share EAGLE files from customer to design

house.  One thing that is really frustrating is that the colour palette is

not stored in the board file.  So if I use a custom colour palette (i.e.

The

colours above index 16) when my customer gets them it just looks black (or

maybe all grey with the new defaults in EAGLE 5, haven't check if that was

implemented as discussed).

 

Why not just simply treat the colour palette like any other setting that

goes through the GUI.  For example, the DRC settings are set and stored in

the PCB.  You use the local copy until you load/change a new set using the

GUI.  Please treat the colour palette the same.

 

This has always been a required feature, but now with EAGLE 5 even more

so.

I don't like the colour palette that is by default, I need to change it to

work efficiently.  Also, my boards are often more than 6 layers so I need

the colour differences to be more subtle to allow for more layers.

 

So please, please, incorporate this as soon as possible.

 

Cheers,

 

James.

 

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On 07/20/08 16:59, James Morrison wrote:

Hello,

 

For EAGLE to become more accepted into the professional ranks, it is

important that it is easy to share EAGLE files from customer to design

house.  One thing that is really frustrating is that the colour palette is

not stored in the board file.  So if I use a custom colour palette (i.e. The

colours above index 16) when my customer gets them it just looks black (or

maybe all grey with the new defaults in EAGLE 5, haven't check if that was

implemented as discussed).

 

Why not just simply treat the colour palette like any other setting that

goes through the GUI.  For example, the DRC settings are set and stored in

the PCB.  You use the local copy until you load/change a new set using the

GUI.  Please treat the colour palette the same.

 

This has always been a required feature, but now with EAGLE 5 even more so.

I don't like the colour palette that is by default, I need to change it to

work efficiently.  Also, my boards are often more than 6 layers so I need

the colour differences to be more subtle to allow for more layers.

There are three color palettes, for black, white and colored background,

respectively. The palette for a particular type of background is used

in both board and schematic context.

If we store the palettes in the drawing file, how should they be treated

whe a user loads a file from somebody else? If the other user only cared

about the black palette, but this user uses the white palette, there would

still be no colors defined.

Besides, the layer colors are more like a personal setting. One user

might consider the Top layer to be red ("of course it's red, it's always

been red"), while the other one can't tell red from green and thus uses

yellow as his top layer color ("of course it's yellow, it's always been

yellow"). From this point of view we are actually already storing

too much information in the drawing files - the color palette index

should never have gone in there to begin with!

When we get drawing files from our users in order to reproduce some

problem, the color indexes are often set to "exotic" values, so

the first thing we do is to run our own "set color" script in order

to be able to actually "see" what's in the drawing.

Maybe all it takes is to fill the default color palettes with actual

values (not just grey). So if you (or anybody else here) could come

up with a reasonable suggestion for the default colors (in all three

palettes), we might consider adopting them.

Klaus Schmidinger

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CadSoft Computer GmbH                   Fax:   +49-8635-6989-40

Hofmark 2                               Email:   kls@cadsoft.de

D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany           URL:     www.cadsoft.de

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maybe the color pallete is useles....

all default layers can have implicit colors, user can change any of that

(the "choose color" dialog will become "set colors" - for both (highlighted

and usual color)), and colors for used layers can be stored in sch and brd

files.

"Klaus Schmidinger" <Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de> wrote in message

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On 07/20/08 16:59, James Morrison wrote:

Hello,

 

For EAGLE to become more accepted into the professional ranks, it is

important that it is easy to share EAGLE files from customer to design

house.  One thing that is really frustrating is that the colour palette

is

not stored in the board file.  So if I use a custom colour palette (i.e.

The

colours above index 16) when my customer gets them it just looks black

(or

maybe all grey with the new defaults in EAGLE 5, haven't check if that

was

implemented as discussed).

 

Why not just simply treat the colour palette like any other setting that

goes through the GUI.  For example, the DRC settings are set and stored

in

the PCB.  You use the local copy until you load/change a new set using

the

GUI.  Please treat the colour palette the same.

 

This has always been a required feature, but now with EAGLE 5 even more

so.

I don't like the colour palette that is by default, I need to change it

to

work efficiently.  Also, my boards are often more than 6 layers so I need

the colour differences to be more subtle to allow for more layers.

 

There are three color palettes, for black, white and colored background,

respectively. The palette for a particular type of background is used

in both board and schematic context.

If we store the palettes in the drawing file, how should they be treated

whe a user loads a file from somebody else? If the other user only cared

about the black palette, but this user uses the white palette, there would

still be no colors defined.

 

Besides, the layer colors are more like a personal setting. One user

might consider the Top layer to be red ("of course it's red, it's always

been red"), while the other one can't tell red from green and thus uses

yellow as his top layer color ("of course it's yellow, it's always been

yellow"). From this point of view we are actually already storing

too much information in the drawing files - the color palette index

should never have gone in there to begin with!

 

When we get drawing files from our users in order to reproduce some

problem, the color indexes are often set to "exotic" values, so

the first thing we do is to run our own "set color" script in order

to be able to actually "see" what's in the drawing.

 

 

Maybe all it takes is to fill the default color palettes with actual

values (not just grey). So if you (or anybody else here) could come

up with a reasonable suggestion for the default colors (in all three

palettes), we might consider adopting them.

 

Klaus Schmidinger

--

_______________________________________________________________

 

Klaus Schmidinger                       Phone: +49-8635-6989-10

CadSoft Computer GmbH                   Fax:   +49-8635-6989-40

Hofmark 2                               Email:   kls@cadsoft.de

D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany           URL:     www.cadsoft.de

_______________________________________________________________

 

I agree that color profiles are personal info, no real need to put them

in files.

Every user seems to have a preference.

I use a different pallete for every project...

"Gary Gofstein" <ggofstein@lbl_nospam.gov> wrote in message

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I agree that color profiles are personal info, no real need to put them in

files.

Every user seems to have a preference.

 

Hello eSilviu !:

I use a different pallete for every project...

Why ?????

regards

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office tel/fax : +48 32 2505840

mobil : +48 501 301515

http://www.complex.org.pl/

because I get bored....

"Grzegorz Zalot" <complex@alpha.pl> wrote in message

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Hello eSilviu !:

I use a different pallete for every project...

 

Why ?????

 

regards

--

Grzegorz Zalot

 

complex ltd.

office tel/fax : +48 32 2505840

mobil : +48 501 301515

 

http://www.complex.org.pl/