Can I install Eagle 6.2 on two PC's with 1 user lisense or not??

Yes, you can install eagle on two PC's. I'm the only user of eagle (as I'm a self-employed engineer), using it on my desktop (iMac) and on my notebook (MacbookPro) when I'm not in my office/lab.

Consider the fact that every time you switch computers, you have to start looking for the licence file and the installation code, taking up some minutes of your time. So, this is not user friendly if you ask me.

Keeping the libraries, user program files,... synchronized between computers is working with the help of a third-party-software (like Chronosync,...)

Now my question: is there a way (except buying two licences) not having to lookup the licence file and the installation code, every time you start eagle on the 'other' machine?

On 7/20/2012 2:55 AM, Paul Vandenbulcke wrote:

Consider the fact that every time you switch computers, you have to start looking for the licence file and the installation code, taking up some minutes of your time. So, this is not too user friendly.

 

 

Is there a way not having to lookup the licence file and the installation code, every time you start eagle on the 'other' machine?

 

Hi Paul,

Once EAGLE is installed and licensed you shouldn't need the key file and

installation code again until you are going to update.

Am I understanding you correctly in saying that every time you go from

one computer to the other you have to relicense EAGLE?

Let me know,

Jorge Garcia

Cadsoft Support

Hi Jorge,

you are understanding me correctly: everytime you start eagle on the other machine, you have to relicense EAGLE. This was so with version 5 and again so with version 6.

You don't have to relicense as long as you use eagle on one machine, but the first time thereafter that you want to use EAGLE on the other machine, the program has 'forgotten' the license information and you get the following choices: "cancel" - "Freemium" - "Run as Freeware" - "Use license file".

There are better ways to apply the "single user-multiple computers" license. I use other paid software that is protected by a license file or code that automatically inhibit the use of the program on a second computer while it is running already on one computer: for example: Apple's Aperture software, Circusponies Notebook,... Of course this will only work you are online or on the same network I think, but the EAGLE security must also work this way now: otherwise the program wouldn't know that it has been started up on another computer.

On 7/23/2012 2:52 AM, Paul Vandenbulcke wrote:

Hi Jorge,

 

you are understanding me correctly: everytime you start eagle on the other machine, you have to relicense EAGLE. This was so with version 5 and again so with version 6.

 

You don't have to relicense as long as you use eagle on one machine, but the first time thereafter that you want to use EAGLE on the other machine, the program has 'forgotten' the license information and you get the following choices: "cancel" - "Freemium" - "Run as Freeware" - "Use license file".

 

There are better ways to apply the "single user-multiple computers" license. I use other paid software that is protected by a license file or code that automatically inhibit the use of the program on a second computer while it is running already on one computer: for example: Apple's Aperture software, Circusponies Notebook,... Of course this will only work you are online or on the same network I think, but the EAGLE security must also work this way now: otherwise the program wouldn't know that it has been started up on another computer.

 

Hi Paul,

I think you're misunderstanding EAGLE's licensing system then. If you go

help-> EAGLE License it will always ask you for licensing info even if

EAGLE is licensed. The reason behind this is that there are occasions

when you want to run as freeware or something like that.

EAGLE doesn't make use of the internet to enforce licensing

restrictions. Once you've licensed it on a machine you don't have to

license it again unless you update/upgrade.

To see that this is the case on both of your computers go Help-> About

EAGLE in the EAGLE control panel.

Could you confirm that on both machines your license information shows up?

Best Regards,

Jorge Garcia

Hi Jorge,

first thanks for replying to this item.

I will try to write down step by step, what 's happening when starting up eagle.

I have been working yesterday and today on Eagle on my iMac (desktop computer). Now I will start up Eagle on my MacBook Pro (notebook). On my iMac I have closed Eagle.

After starting up Eagle, the first thing I get is the license window:

Choosing "cancel" closes the program

Choosing "Freemium" gives me the opportunity to enter a Freemium code

Choosing "Run as Freeware", opens Eagle, but after choosing the license information, it mentions the the singel user freeware license for educational use only. But apparantly, at first sight, the program works, but in the title of the program window there is "Eagle 6.2.0. light" mentioned, so I expect some freeware limitations. After closing Eagle and restarting up, the license dialog isn't showing any longer, but Eagle is still in "light"-mode.

Choosing "Use license file", I'm asked to enter the license file and installation code.

Now you could think: the license file has never been installed on the MacBookPro (but it was). So now I have entered my license file and installation code, so now Eagle is showing in the title: "Eagle 6.2.0. Professional". Quiting and starting up gives no problem on my MacBookPro.

Also, on my desktop, I'm able to start up Eagle without any hassle about license file. So at this moment, I'm running Eagle on both computers. I'm sure tomorrow this will not be possible any longer. Now I will restart this desktop computer to see what happens afterwards and at te latest tomorrow I will keep you informed about the situation.

On 7/24/2012 2:51 AM, Paul Vandenbulcke wrote:

Hi Jorge,

 

>

first thanks for replying to this item.

No Paul, thank you for allowing me to help and look into this possible

issue.

>

Now you could think: the license file has never been installed on the MacBookPro (but it was). So now I have entered my license file and installation code, so now Eagle is showing in the title: "Eagle 6.2.0. Professional". Quiting and starting up gives no problem on my MacBookPro.

Also, on my desktop, I'm able to start up Eagle without any hassle about license file. So at this moment, I'm running Eagle on both computers. I'm sure tomorrow this will not be possible any longer. Now I will restart this desktop computer to see what happens afterwards and at te latest tomorrow I will keep you informed about the situation.

 

Keep me informed, if it pops up again it then we'll do our best to solve it.

Best Regards,

Jorge Garcia

On 7/24/2012 2:51 AM, Paul Vandenbulcke wrote:

Hi Jorge,

 

>

first thanks for replying to this item.

No Paul, thank you for allowing me to help and look into this possible

issue.

>

Now you could think: the license file has never been installed on the MacBookPro (but it was). So now I have entered my license file and installation code, so now Eagle is showing in the title: "Eagle 6.2.0. Professional". Quiting and starting up gives no problem on my MacBookPro.

Also, on my desktop, I'm able to start up Eagle without any hassle about license file. So at this moment, I'm running Eagle on both computers. I'm sure tomorrow this will not be possible any longer. Now I will restart this desktop computer to see what happens afterwards and at te latest tomorrow I will keep you informed about the situation.

 

Keep me informed, if it pops up again it then we'll do our best to solve it.

Best Regards,

Jorge Garcia

And as I thought, both versions of Eagle worked perfectly yesterday, but today the situation has changed:

- on my MacBookPro (notebook): eagle starts up as normal

- on my iMac (desktop): I get the license window and have to lookup the license 'key'-file and the installation code.

So, this prooves there is 'some' kind of exchange of information about the license between the computers or between the computer and a central administration: my iMac "knows" that the same license was used on my MacBookPro and therefor, the license on the iMac expired. Or there is some other mechanism having the same result. Which - in fact - can make sense in protecting the software against piracy, but I think there could be a better way nowadays.

On 7/25/2012 2:30 AM, Paul Vandenbulcke wrote:

And as I thought, both versions of Eagle worked perfectly yesterday, but today the situation has changed:

 

- on my MacBookPro (notebook): eagle starts up as normal

- on my iMac (desktop): I get the license window and have to lookup the license 'key'-file and the installation code.

 

So, this prooves there is 'some' kind of exchange of information about the license between the computers or between the computer and a central administration: my iMac "knows" that the same license was used on my MacBookPro and therefor, the license on the iMac expired. Or there is some other mechanism having the same result. Which - in fact - can make sense in protecting the software against piracy, but I think there could be a better way nowadays.

 

Hi Paul,

If there is an exchange it's not promoted by EAGLE. I presume these

don't have any type of deep freeze software which restores the computer

to a defined state after a shutdown(very common in school computers).

In my limited experience with Macs I've noticed that they take care of a

lot of stuff for you. For example if you have EAGLE installed and you

then install a New version the MAC OS automatically removes the old

installation by default.

Is there any possibility something like that is going on here? I don't

know but I'm going to forward this to our developers.

I'll keep you posted.

Best Regards,

Jorge Garcia

On 7/25/2012 2:30 AM, Paul Vandenbulcke wrote:

And as I thought, both versions of Eagle worked perfectly yesterday, but today the situation has changed:

 

- on my MacBookPro (notebook): eagle starts up as normal

- on my iMac (desktop): I get the license window and have to lookup the license 'key'-file and the installation code.

 

Hi Paul,

I contacted our developer and he has an idea on why you're experiencing

the behavior, here is his response:

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Are both machines not connected with each other (for example in a network) ?

I assume no. He says he uses some software called Chronosync to

synchronize the EAGLE directories.

I think the installation directories are identical in both cases. In

that case there would be a problem.

The crucial part of licensing is the file EAGLE.key in $EAGLEDIR/bin.

The key file is unique for one machine.

If $EAGLEDIR is identical for both installations he uses EAGLE.key also

for the other machine.

EAGLE detects that this does not fit together and wants another license

file.

He could check that by working with a copied $EAGLEDIR. Start EAGLE from

copied directory on the machine

where it didn't work and license it once more.

Then there a 2 versions of EAGLE.key, one in original $EAGLEDIR for

first machine, one in the copied

$EAGLEDIR for 2nd machine. This should work.

-

Basically he's assuming that the computers are not on the same network

and since you mentioned the use of a third party synchronizing software

that may be the culprit.

If both installations are synced to the same libraries, ulps, etc. then

there eagle.key files are also synced and as he noted above this creates

the problem.

Could you try his suggested solution and see if that works for you?

Best Regards,

Jorge Garcia

Aha, there we could very well have a point!

Indeed some of my directories both my computers are synchronised automatically (when they are on the same network: when I am in my office). The full eagle-directory is synchronised automatically once a day to keep my libraries, ulps, etc... identical. Also the bin-directory is synchronised. Also the EAGLE.key-file will be copied tot te most recent version on both machines. This could be the cause of the problem.

I will exclude this file from synchronizing - this is possible in Chronosync. I will report on the results later (I'm almost leaving for vacation so it could take some time). But I have good hope that this will be solved.

I have already done one forced synchronization after which both versions still worked fine, so this looks good.

The computers are mostly on the same network, but both installations of eagle are pure stand-alone because I want to use Eagle on my notebook when I'm not at my office and without any connection.

Thanks for helping me out on this!

As promlised I will get back in a few weeks with (hopefully) de definitive outcome of the solution.

Hi, I promised to get back at this after my holiday.

Well, the problem is solved! Both Eagles can work at the same time: I do not have to enter my license key any longer, every time I switch machines.

Thank you very much!

On 8/14/2012 3:09 AM, Paul Vandenbulcke wrote:

Hi, I promised to get back at this after my holiday.

Well, the problem is solved! Both Eagles can work at the same time: I do not have to enter my license key any longer, every time I switch machines.

 

Thank you very much!

 

Hi Paul,

Glad that it working as it should.

Let me know if there's anything else we can do for you.

Best Regards,

Jorge Garcia

Cadsoft Computer