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OSX - Mavericks - objects not displayed while moving

ufanders

Hi guys,

 

I'm seeing a problem in EAGLE 6.60 (professional license) where any object I attempt to move (nets/parts/etc.) does not move as my cursor moves. This makes schematic capture very difficult. Sometimes I can temporarily fix it by switching to the board view then back to the schematic view. This is only temporary however.

 

Do you have a patch or a workaround for this?

 

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  • 0 in reply to autodeskguest

    Ha, It's a serious question actually.

     

    If I paid several hundred dollars for an upgrade to a system that I can't use then I'll find an alternative program to work with. I don't mind not having the latest features, but what I pay for must operate as described when I buy it.

     

    I'll give you guys a call soon and we can talk about the available options.

     

    =]

  • 0 in reply to ufanders

    On 11/09/2014 9:31 a.m., Anders Nelson wrote:

    Ha, It's a serious question actually.

     

    If I paid several hundred dollars for an upgrade to a system that I

    can't use then I'll find an alternative program to work with. I don't

    mind not having the latest features, but what I pay for must operate as

    described when I buy it.

     

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    I agree with this sentiment.

     

    Cadsoft has a habit of stopping support for the current version when a

    new version is released and before the new version is any good. A good

    proportion of other vendors support the current version (twilight) for a

    period that is stated up front or until the new version is stable.

     

    There are issues with v6 that go beyond what society and the software

    industry accepts as bugs and gets to the point of not delivering

    advertised functionality. Functionality described in the documentation.

      I'm  surprised there was not a Class action initiated, particularly in

    the early months of v6? It could happen now with the bungled release of

    v7 with the hierarchical functionality only delivering half of the

    normal expectation.

     

    When v6 was released it was so obviously premature and bug riddled that

    I forecast it would be 6.5 before it was stable. That turned out to be

    correct. During this time bugs were still being logged for v5. A few

    were fixed then but the cutoff came well before v6 was any good. From

    the number of issues people were reporting I even posted that I was not

    even going to bother reviewing it and reporting issues I found. Why

    waste my time if Cadsoft did not invest time in to create an even half

    quality product before releasing it. Then Jorge posted back saying that

    I should so that others would benefit. There it was again, Cadsoft

    leaving it up to the customers to do the testing for them.

     

    Really, I feel sad for those who have outlaid money for v7. I hope it

    works well for you in the end.

     

    Warren

     

     

     

  • 0 in reply to ufanders

    On 9/10/2014 5:31 PM, Anders Nelson wrote:

    Ha, It's a serious question actually.

     

    If I paid several hundred dollars for an upgrade to a system that I

    can't use then I'll find an alternative program to work with. I don't

    mind not having the latest features, but what I pay for must operate as

    described when I buy it.

     

    --

    To view any images and attachments in this post, visit:

    http://www.element14.com/community/message/126141

     

     

    Hi Anders,

     

    We can't anticipate changes that Apple, Windows or a particular linux

    distro will make to their systems after the lifespan of a given release.

    From the reports we received not all Mavericks users are experiencing

    this, so it may not be an EAGLE issue, but rather one of settings and

    configurations on a particular machine.

     

    Additionally, if it was a major catastrophic bug that impeded the

    functionality of V6 we would go back and fix it. It's been done before

    as Warren mentions, though maybe not to the extent some users would

    like. I don't believe this constitutes a major, catastrophic bug since

    there is a simple workaround as mentioned earlier in the thread.

     

    With all that said, I'll bring this up to management and see what can be

    done.

     

    Hth,

    Jorge Garcia

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  • 0 in reply to autodeskguest

    Hi Jorge,

     

    I appreciate you taking this situation to heart, thank you. Certainly if an OS manufacturer does something strange it's out of Cadsoft's control.

     

    Does Cadsoft have a QA team? For the price of a part-time employee I imagine it would provide an enormously positive return on investment for Cadsoft.

     

    Please let us know what management says about this situation. I've always advocated for EAGLE but now that I exclusively use OSX for development, this current bug that constantly interrupts my workflow would be fatal for my advocacy. I have rather strong influence in San Francisco where a lot of the new (especially wearable) technologies are being created and I'd love to continue pointing people to a CAD platform that's more prevalent than purely open-source offerings.

     

    =]

  • 0 in reply to ufanders

    On 9/11/2014 2:45 PM, Anders Nelson wrote:

    Hi Jorge,

     

    I appreciate you taking this situation to heart, thank you. Certainly if

    an OS manufacturer does something strange it's out of Cadsoft's control.

     

    Does Cadsoft have a QA team? For the price of a part-time employee I

    imagine it would provide an enormously positive return on investment for

    Cadsoft.

     

    We don't have a dedicated QA team, with EAGLE's current codebase and

    complexity we would need a lot more than a part-time employee to test

    EAGLE across multiple platforms configurations and scenarios. All of the

    technical staff is involved in testing EAGLE and covering as much ground

    as we can but it's a lot.

    Please let us know what management says about this situation. I've

    always advocated for EAGLE but now that I exclusively use OSX for

    development, this current bug that constantly interrupts my workflow

    would be fatal for my advocacy. I have rather strong influence in San

    Francisco where a lot of the new (especially wearable) technologies are

    being created and I'd love to continue pointing people to a CAD platform

    that's more prevalent than purely open-source offerings.

    I'll let you know as things come up.

     

    Best Regards,

    Jorge Garcia

     

    =]

     

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  • 0 in reply to autodeskguest

    Hello again Jorge and Cadsoft,

     

    I just received a promotional email about EAGLE 7.20 and looked through the release notes, but I did not see any mention of the OSX bug that requires me to switch windows every time I move or place a symbol. Can you please update us on the work that is bring done to solve this? I'm trying to use this tool at Nest (maker of the famous thermostat) but this bug makes my work very frustrating.

     

    Thanks!

     

    Anders

  • 0 in reply to ufanders

    On 12/3/2014 1:50 PM, Anders Nelson wrote:

    Hello again Jorge and Cadsoft,

     

    I just received a promotional email about EAGLE 7.20 and looked through

    the release notes, but I did not see any mention of the OSX bug that

    requires me to switch windows every time I move or place a symbol. Can

    you please update us on the work that is bring done to solve this? I'm

    trying to use this tool at Nest (maker of the famous thermostat) but

    this bug makes my work very frustrating.

     

    Hi Anders,

     

    V7.3 is the one that will be addressing these issues. This one will be

    out in early 2015.

     

    V7.2 is mostly a bug fix release with some small improvements to the

    hierarchy and a new ULP object.

     

    hth,

    Jorge Garcia

     

     

  • 0 in reply to autodeskguest

    Good afternoon, Jorge,

     

    On 2014-12-03 22:16:42 +0000, Jorge Garcia said:

    V7.3 is the one that will be addressing these issues. This one will be

    out in early 2015.

    V7.2 is mostly a bug fix release with some small improvements to the

    hierarchy and a new ULP object.

     

    I know it's not you, but does Cadsoft/Element14 really expect paying

    customers to wait this long for a critical bug that makes their

    software unusable on a supported platform?

     

    A point release (7.2.1) released very quickly to address a specific

    critical usability bug (same with 6.6.1 to address OSX Yosemite

    zooming) would go a hell of a long way to demonstrate

    Cadsoft/Element14's appreciation to its customers.

     

    This is all very, very frustrating for Eagle's loyal customers.

     

    -A.

     

     

     

  • 0 in reply to autodeskguest

    Hi Jorge,

     

    This is good news, I'll be on the lookout for this update.

     

    =]

  • 0 in reply to autodeskguest

    Hi Jorge,

     

    Has this issue been fixed in the latest version of EAGLE yet? I have a professional license for EAGLE 6.6.0 - will my license carry over to realize this fix?

     

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