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mstng_67
mstng_67 over 11 years ago

Hello. I am very new to hardware development and am in need of some professional help determining what parts I need to accomplish my goal. I am looking to build a power management system for use inside a car. The system will be used to manage power to a Raspberry Pi. Attached is an accurate (yet I'm sure very crude...please pardon my ignorance) representation of what I'm trying to accomplish. The goal of this is to maintain a constant stream of clean power to the RasPi while the vehicle is in operation. Could I get some guidance on what materials I need in order to make this a success?

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  • shabaz
    0 shabaz over 11 years ago

    I didn't understand the exact requirement, did you intend the RPI to gracefully power off when the vehicle is not in operation?

    If so, there are alternate ways that do not require the LiPo and step-up DC-DC converter - the sleepy pi would then likely meet the need.

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    0 mstng_67 over 11 years ago in reply to shabaz

    Well, that's part of it. I also want to ensure no vehicle battery drain when the system is not in use. In addition, I need some mechanism to ensure the RPi is getting clean power in the hostile power environment present in a car. That was the thought behind the LiPO. The LiPO is meant to ensure a clean stream of power to the RPi no matter what the power condition is in the vehicle.

     

    The requirements are:

     

    1) Ensure that the system can completely power off such that there is not drain on the automotive battery.

    2) Ensure a clean and steady power supply to the RPi.

    3) Provide a mechanism to allow the RPi to shut itself down gracefully and then "wake up" when the vehicle key is switched to the "run" position. Note the IGN wire in my drawing. That's what starts the whole process.

     

    The sleepy pi may be an option. I am unsure if it the entire system can be completely shut down...meaning does the arduino stay powered on the whole time? If so, that would cause a drain on the automotive battery. Lastly, I see that it provides the power management I'm looking for; however, I really need to be able to fend off the spikes, brownouts, and sustained voltage craziness in the vehicle. I would still need some kind of battery to provide the consistent power I'm looking for...correct?

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    0 autodeskguest over 11 years ago in reply to Problemchild

    Several things to consider (vehicle power systems are notoriously noisy).

    The first thing I like to do is use a resistor in series with a diode in

    the supply (with a cap after it) to help provide isolation from the spikes

    - the resistor limits the current from the spike and the diode prevents

    reverse flow if bad things happen in the vehicle (like reversed battery)).

    You also need to consider signal conditioning on any other connections

    (sensors etc.) - spikes on those lines will also cause strange things for

    your board.  You not only need to make sure the power to the board is

    clean, but that all other connections to the board are also protected -

    lots of things generate spikes in that environment and lots of magnetic

    pulses (starter etc.) that can induce strange information into sense/data

    lines.  Running a processor in that environment is NOT trivial and you need

    to put lots of protection on all connections, not just the power.

     

    mikey

     

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    0 Problemchild over 11 years ago in reply to Problemchild

    We've not even asked what he wants to do and we are engineering the finer points of the design.

    Can  Arch Nemesis explain what he wants to achieve with the Raspberry Pi in the car?

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    0 autodeskguest over 11 years ago in reply to Problemchild

    On 8/11/2014 10:37 a.m., John Alexander wrote:

    We've not even asked what he wants to do and we are engineering the

    finer points of the design.

    Can  Arch Nemesis explain what he wants to achieve with the Raspberry Pi

    in the car?

    h5.

     

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    And another thing. This is the support forum for the Cadsoft Eagle

    software.

     

    This is totally the wrong place for this discussion. Please take it

    elsewhere.

     

    Thank you

    Warren

     

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    0 mstng_67 over 11 years ago in reply to autodeskguest

    I am very sorry. I completely missed where this was. Is it possible for an admin to move this to the appropriate place?

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    0 autodeskguest over 11 years ago in reply to autodeskguest

    I'm assuming you want to know about the project? Not just the power

    management side of it? My project is related to telematics. It started

    as geolocation technology but has grown in scope to include much more.

    The Pi has been very useful for this.

     

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    http://www.element14.com/community/message/130786

     

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    0 mstng_67 over 11 years ago in reply to Problemchild

    I'm assuming you want to know about the project? Not just the power management side of it? My project is related to telematics. It started as geolocation technology but has grown in scope to include much more. The Pi has been very useful for this.

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    0 Problemchild over 11 years ago in reply to mstng_67

    Just ask Element14jamie to move it or just ask the question again

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    0 Problemchild over 11 years ago in reply to Problemchild

    The link doesn't work. however the project sounds very interesting. Please re ask the question on the Raspberry PI forum.

    I for one would like to  see what you are intending for your project. Please send us a link to the question.

    Better still start a blog post and get some points for it image

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    0 mstng_67 over 11 years ago in reply to Problemchild

    Just ask Element14jamie to move it or just ask the question again

     

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    Thanks for the tip. However, I ran into a problem. Since Element14jamie is not following me, I can't PM him. See the attached photo. Any ideas?

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    0 Problemchild over 11 years ago in reply to mstng_67

    Good question I asked someone who will hopefully pass it on .

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    0 Problemchild over 11 years ago in reply to mstng_67

    Good question I asked someone who will hopefully pass it on .

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