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Former Member
Former Member over 10 years ago

Hi,

 

I want to design a two layer PCB as heating surface that is screwed against a heat exchanger. I plan to use lots of distributed SMD resistors with one pad on the ground plane (no thermals) and the other one connected through a via to Vcc. For technical reasons, I want to place the resistors on the side against the heat exchanger featuring a trench in which they are placed.

 

To make the heat transfer  uniform and efficient, I do not want to have a soldermask except a small  frame around the pad of the resistor. This way, the thick copper layer is pressed directly against the heatsink.

The ideal thing would be to be able to inverse the definition of the tstop layer: Directly draw the solder stop shapes, instead of defining  all the zones where no solderstop is allowed (as its typically done).

 

Is this possible? Or are there any good work arounds a PCB manufacturer can work with?

 

Many thanks!

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  • Joop14
    0 Joop14 over 10 years ago

    Create a polygon in layer 29 (tStop) with the size of the board.

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  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 10 years ago in reply to Joop14

    Yes but thing is, cutout option for polygon doesn't seem to work on the tstop layer...

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  • Joop14
    0 Joop14 over 10 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Quote from the manual: "Only polygons in signal layers can have the pour style "Cutout"."

     

    I wonder why...

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    0 autodeskguest over 10 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Tobias Greuter wrote on Thu, 02 April 2015 03:15

    Yes but thing is, cutout option for polygon doesn't seem to work on

    the

    tstop layer...

     

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    You may be able to do what you need by using

    copy-layer-to-any-layer.ulp

     

    If you can get the stop polygon the way you want it on a copper layer you

    can use the ulp to copy that polygon's contour and fill wires to the stop

    layer. (Then delete the polygon on the copper layer)

     

    It may take  bit of trial and error to get solder stop where you do need

    it.

     

    All the best

    Warren

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    0 Former Member over 10 years ago in reply to autodeskguest

     

    If you can get the stop polygon the way you want it on a copper layer you

    can use the ulp to copy that polygon's contour and fill wires to the stop

    layer. (Then delete the polygon on the copper layer)

     

     

    I tried your suggestion and the ulp does exactly that: it copies the polygon shape to another layer. It still does not work for what I intended to do, since the "cutout" attribute of the polygon on the copper layer is not copied. It therefore still simply draws a solder stop shape on the stop layer instead of cutting out a shape.

     

    It looks like it is not possible at all, as the quote from the manual discovered by Joop14 suggests. It doesn't seem such a far-fetched idea though (feature request?)...

    Thanks anyways.

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    0 autodeskguest over 10 years ago in reply to Former Member

    On 7/04/2015 8:51 p.m., Tobias Greuter wrote:

     

    I tried your suggestion and the ulp does exactly that: it copies the

    polygon shape to another layer. It still does not work for what I

    intended to do, since the "cutout" attribute of the polygon on the

    copper layer is not copied. It therefore still simply draws a solder

    stop shape on the stop layer instead of cutting out a shape.

     

    It looks like it is not possible at all, as the quote from the manual

    discovered by Joop14 suggests. It doesn't seem such a far-fetched idea

    though (feature request?)...

     

    Dont give up. It is possible provided I understand your need correctly

    See attached.

     

    Warren

     

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    trench.zip
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  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 10 years ago in reply to autodeskguest

    Yes. That is exactly what I want. Still couldn't find the right settings in the ulp to get it to work on my board, though.  What settings did you use?

    In the meantime, I drew the tstop layer by hand, which didn't amount to that much more work in the end.

     

    Thanks

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