Open Sch & Brd files together

"T G" <fightspammers@gmail.com> wrote in message

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No, it doesn't, but so what? How often do you use that swiss army knife?

It does a lot, but none of it well, don't you usually break out the real

tools? Do you really want Eagle to be that way? It will be if the

developers spend lots of time on non-Electronic stuff.

I just want that all files (except backup files) in a project to be visible

in Eagle, and when I double-click one of them, to be opened with associate

program.

This is the right way .

The wrong way is to:

-use Windows explorer to browse to my project,

-click on eagle.epf (generic name, the same for all projects), by default

unassocied with Eagle, so I must choose "Open with..." and browse for

eagle.exe

-wait for Eagle to load all libraries of that project (by default ALL

libraries), and if after loading, I want to add an other component, I must

wait again for ALL libraries to be loaded (try if you don't believe me)

-only then view/edit the schematic/board

Count this one too:

-right click on a component, write down on a paper it's library and package

- from Eagle CP: File/open/library + browse for that library (if it's not in

the first "Library director" it's even worse), and then edit that component,

according to a datasheet:

-use again Windows Explorer to open that datasheet, related to your project,

and stored on the same root folder with your project

How many windows do you have opened by now: 1.Eagle CP, 2. Schematic,

3.Board, 4.Lib editor, 5PDF viewer, 6Windows explorer?

Eagle with tabs + PDF reader should be enaugh.... if Eagle would have tabs,

and it would know how to open other files.

And developpers won't spend lots of time on non-Electronic stuff, because it

means just to pass to the OS commnad to open the file

"T G" <fightspammers@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:hm6fit$2u0$1@cheetah.cadsoft.de...

No, it doesn't, but so what? How often do you use that swiss army knife?

It does a lot, but none of it well, don't you usually break out the real

tools? Do you really want Eagle to be that way? It will be if the

developers spend lots of time on non-Electronic stuff.

I just want that all files (except backup files) in a project to be visible

in Eagle, and when I double-click one of them, to be opened with associate

program.

This is the right way .

The wrong way is to:

-use Windows explorer to browse to my project,

-click on eagle.epf (generic name, the same for all projects), by default

unassocied with Eagle, so I must choose "Open with..." and browse for

eagle.exe

-wait for Eagle to load all libraries of that project (by default ALL

libraries), and if after loading, I want to add an other component, I must

wait again for ALL libraries to be loaded (try if you don't believe me)

-only then view/edit the schematic/board

Count this one too:

-right click on a component, write down on a paper it's library and package

- from Eagle CP: File/open/library + browse for that library (if it's not in

the first "Library director" it's even worse), and then edit that component,

according to a datasheet:

-use again Windows Explorer to open that datasheet, related to your project,

and stored on the same root folder with your project

How many windows do you have opened by now: 1.Eagle CP, 2. Schematic,

3.Board, 4.Lib editor, 5PDF viewer, 6Windows explorer?

Eagle with tabs + PDF reader should be enaugh.... if Eagle would have tabs,

and it would know how to open other files.

And developpers won't spend lots of time on non-Electronic stuff, because it

means just to pass to the OS commnad to open the file

I just want that all files (except backup files) in a project to be visible

in Eagle, and when I double-click one of them, to be opened with associate

program.

This is the right way .

The wrong way is to:

-use Windows explorer to browse to my project,

-click on eagle.epf (generic name, the same for all projects), by default

unassocied with Eagle, so I must choose "Open with..." and browse for

eagle.exe

-wait for Eagle to load all libraries of that project (by default ALL

libraries), and if after loading, I want to add an other component, I must

wait again for ALL libraries to be loaded (try if you don't believe me)

-only then view/edit the schematic/board

Count this one too:

-right click on a component, write down on a paper it's library and package

- from Eagle CP: File/open/library + browse for that library (if it's not in

the first "Library director" it's even worse), and then edit that component,

according to a datasheet:

-use again Windows Explorer to open that datasheet, related to your project,

and stored on the same root folder with your project

 

How many windows do you have opened by now: 1.Eagle CP, 2. Schematic,

3.Board, 4.Lib editor, 5PDF viewer, 6Windows explorer?

Eagle with tabs + PDF reader should be enaugh.... if Eagle would have tabs,

and it would know how to open other files.

And developpers won't spend lots of time on non-Electronic stuff, because it

means just to pass to the OS commnad to open the file

 

 

Have you not learned how to associate files in windows? If you have,

your 1st complaint is invalid, though it would be nice if Eagle

associated the epf files.

So what, you have 6 windows open? Complaining about that is fairly

laughable when you see what I keep open when into a project:

Firefox with 70 to 90 browser tabs open

Eagle with 4 to 5 windows

Thunderbird for email with 3 or 4 tabs open (each tab is an email)

MPLAB with 5 or 6 tabs open (each tab is a file)

PICKit PIC Programmer

XYplorer

Foxit reader with about 7 to 10 documents open

SoftScope (PC oscilloscope software)

OpenOffice Writer and/or Draw and/or Calc

GIMP

Sometimes also AutoCAD

Notepad or PSPad

Serial port diagnostics software I wrote to troubleshoot several of my

projects

MS Visual Studio with 5 to 20 tabs open.

I regularly run all of that simultaneously without noticeably slowing

down my laptop, and even more on my desktop. Up until about 2 years ago

I did that all on a 1GHz PC, and that could get slow at times... Why

complain about 6 windows?

Just today I had all that running except for OpenOffice, GIMP, AutoCAD,

or Visual Studio while on-site troubleshooting...

That said, I agree Eagle should have tabs, suggested it months ago.

I highly disagree it should include a pdf viewer built in.

Travis