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Gateswap across schematic   sheets

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I just discovered GATESWAP only works within the current schematic sheet.

I am using a quad opamp.  IC10A and IC10B are on schematic sheet 9, and

IC10C and IC10D on sheet 10.  Now that I'm placing parts on the board, I

want to swap IC10A <> IC10D and IC10B <> IC10C.

 

In the schematic editor, I went to sheet 9 and entered "gateswap ic10a

ic10d".  This resulted in the rather unhelpful pop "Can't swap gate IC10A

and IC10D".  Why can't these gates be swapped?  I checked the swaplevel of

each gate.  No, they are all set to 1.  Maybe the gate names need to be

enclosed in apostrophies?  No, that didn't help.  Upper case?  No, that

wasn't it either.

 

Then I tried "gateswap ic10a ic10b".  That worked.  OK, maybe I had a small

typo.  Using up-arrow, I got the previous command back and carefully

changed only the B to a D.  Now its back to "Can't swap gate IC10A and

IC10D".  It must be that gate A and D are on different sheets, but that's

not intuitive at all.

 

I got around this by moving all of the sheet 10 contents to the side of

sheet 9, doing the gateswaps, then moving the sheet 10 content back to

sheet 10.

 

Am I missing something?

 

If not, then here are my suggestions:Allow GATESWAP to work across

schematic sheets when entered as a command.

 

Fix the GATESWAP error dialog to explain why it can't swap the gates as

requested (incompatible swap level, different numbers of pins, no such

gate, not allowed on Tuesday afternoons, etc).

 

If you don't do #1, at least mention this limitation in the GATESWAP help

page.

 

 

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  • Olin Lathrop schrieb:

     

    I just discovered GATESWAP only works within the current schematic

    sheet.

     

    Yes, that's true - and it's a pain in the ... you know where ... for

    decades now.

     

    I got around this by moving all of the sheet 10 contents to the side

    of sheet 9, doing the gateswaps, then moving the sheet 10 content

    back to sheet 10.

     

    Another workaround is to delete the gate on one page and then invoke it

    on the other (possible only by command line, if there's no other gate of

    that device already).

     

    If not, then here are my suggestions:Allow GATESWAP to work across

    schematic sheets when entered as a command.

     

    Fix the GATESWAP error dialog to explain why it can't swap the gates

    as requested (incompatible swap level, different numbers of pins, no

    such gate, not allowed on Tuesday afternoons, etc).

     

    If you don't do #1, at least mention this limitation in the GATESWAP

    help page.

     

    The ultimate solution to the GATESWAP dilemma has been requested for

    years (decades?) as well: It should be possible to do a GATESWAP in the

    board. There's no reason why this wouldn't work, all the required

    information and mechanisms are already there.

     

    Since you (normally) swap gates to ease routing, the board editor is the

    only natural place for using GATESWAP.

     

    Tilmann

     

    P.S. I didn't test the latest versions for this - if they finally allow

    GATESWAP in the board, please forget the above...

     

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  • Olin Lathrop schrieb:

     

    I just discovered GATESWAP only works within the current schematic

    sheet.

     

    Yes, that's true - and it's a pain in the ... you know where ... for

    decades now.

     

    I got around this by moving all of the sheet 10 contents to the side

    of sheet 9, doing the gateswaps, then moving the sheet 10 content

    back to sheet 10.

     

    Another workaround is to delete the gate on one page and then invoke it

    on the other (possible only by command line, if there's no other gate of

    that device already).

     

    If not, then here are my suggestions:Allow GATESWAP to work across

    schematic sheets when entered as a command.

     

    Fix the GATESWAP error dialog to explain why it can't swap the gates

    as requested (incompatible swap level, different numbers of pins, no

    such gate, not allowed on Tuesday afternoons, etc).

     

    If you don't do #1, at least mention this limitation in the GATESWAP

    help page.

     

    The ultimate solution to the GATESWAP dilemma has been requested for

    years (decades?) as well: It should be possible to do a GATESWAP in the

    board. There's no reason why this wouldn't work, all the required

    information and mechanisms are already there.

     

    Since you (normally) swap gates to ease routing, the board editor is the

    only natural place for using GATESWAP.

     

    Tilmann

     

    P.S. I didn't test the latest versions for this - if they finally allow

    GATESWAP in the board, please forget the above...

     

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