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Problem with hatched pour violating clearance setting

chuckbluz
chuckbluz over 7 years ago

. I’m looking for help with hatched pours., I’m building a capacitive touch pcb, and need 1mm clearance around my touch pads., I’ve set the design rules accordingly. But this is what I get:

 

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You can see that some of the hatching is actually inside the 1mm clearance. Of the 28 sensor pads I have laid out, only 1 is usable. This occurs with 45 degree and/or 90 degree hatching. I tried a solid pour, and that works fine.

Unfortunately, I must have a hatched pour.

 

I looked at the documentation PDFs, and the problem is there, and I also used an online gerber viewer, and verified the problem. I need to send files to our factory in China today, but I cannot send them with this problem.

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  • e14softwareuk
    0 e14softwareuk over 7 years ago

    Hi Charles. Unfortunately your linked image is not displaying. A couple of ideas - increase the clearance of the polygon to ensure >1mm; use a solid pour close to the buttons and hatch to fill the remainder; are the touch areas pads - if so check if using arcs or octagons to draw around pads.

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  • chuckbluz
    0 chuckbluz over 7 years ago in reply to e14softwareuk

    I'm using arcs - I tried octagons, and have the same problem.

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  • e14softwareuk
    0 e14softwareuk over 7 years ago in reply to chuckbluz

    In that case might be worth trying to increase the clearance by half the line width of the hatch.

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  • e14softwareuk
    0 e14softwareuk over 7 years ago in reply to chuckbluz

    In that case might be worth trying to increase the clearance by half the line width of the hatch.

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  • chuckbluz
    0 chuckbluz over 7 years ago in reply to e14softwareuk

    The weird thing is if I use a solid pour, there are no problems. It's clearly an issue with hatched pours.

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  • chuckbluz
    0 chuckbluz over 7 years ago in reply to chuckbluz

    I just tried your suggestion about increasing the clearance width----- it didn't work.

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  • e14softwareuk
    0 e14softwareuk over 7 years ago in reply to chuckbluz

    Did the clearance change? If not then are you adjusting the correct clearance or do you have multiple rules and the wrong one is taking priority. From memory it is possible the hatched pours may draw the outline along the boundary and hence be 1/2 the line width closer than expected.

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  • chuckbluz
    0 chuckbluz over 7 years ago in reply to e14softwareuk

    Yes, the clearance changed as expected. The problems I am seeing are greater than just 1/2 the line width. I just tried adding a keepout around one of the pads, repoured the hatch and the hatch went crazy - much of the hatch around that pad was missing or incomplete. Hopefully you can see the image. The problem is on every pad, some worse or better than others.(the image is of the hatch problem, not the attempt with the keepout!)

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  • e14softwareuk
    0 e14softwareuk over 7 years ago in reply to chuckbluz

    Thanks for sharing the image. If you would like me to take a look at the design tomorrow please feel free to zip up the PCB and send through to software@element14.com.

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  • chuckbluz
    0 chuckbluz over 7 years ago in reply to e14softwareuk

    That would be great thanks - it could be an operator error...:-) I'll send it to you shortly

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    0 e14softwareuk over 7 years ago in reply to chuckbluz

    Hi Charles. Many thanks for sending through the design - I have investigated and it appears the polygon clearance of the hatching is influenced by the clearance design rules for SMD Pad to Arc and Track and not just the polygon rules. If you adjust the values to 1mm the rogue hatching goes away.

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  • chuckbluz
    0 chuckbluz over 7 years ago in reply to e14softwareuk

    Thank you fro reviewing my files. This work-around caused other problems however. First, the 1mm clearance violations now occur around the vias, see the image below. Next, this has caused number design rule violations around my connector, since the spacing between the connector pads is 1mm, running any trace in between becomes a violation. The settings also mean that I cannot have different clearances around my sensor pads and the traces that connect to them, which is not what I want.

     

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  • chuckbluz
    0 chuckbluz over 7 years ago in reply to chuckbluz

    I modified the settings as follows, and fixed the DRC errors around the connector, but the via issues remain. (I'm not using any SMD pads, so I did not change those values)

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  • chuckbluz
    0 chuckbluz over 7 years ago in reply to chuckbluz

    And a final one for this morning! Not sure how this can happen, but the clearance around the through hole pads on the connector is different on different pads.

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