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End of my frustation

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Former Member over 13 years ago

After following the Raspi infos and discussions for month, I did not get a device or a preorder, even an interest entry.

 

So I decided to stop my frustation today and have ordered a Beaglebone. This has about the same functionalties as

the Raspi, but it is better suited for embedded developments, eg. 64 GPIOs, 4 UARTs, .....

It comes with a Linux distribution and one could even implement Android on it. And TI has some nice daughter boards

in the pipeline.

OK, it is more than double in price, I have to pay around 90 € including tax and shipment. But its worth to start with

my project soon, instead of burning my time waiting for Raspi, Gert-board, etc.

 

So I will have a close look next year to the Raspi project and wish to all of you successful projects.

 

Walter

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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 13 years ago

    I see you got yours... so you can't understand my frustration... so GTFO...

    They didn't say clear about selling... only about some "good" news... So yes i waited a good news on email and RSS...

    And got bad news now... They postponed sell date couple of times, and they don't reported about boards back to them from factory... So i think that they will say something like "We got our bords and will do some more testing and start selling at ..."

     

    So either way they wrote not clear... Why they do that? What purpose? Trickery? Yes they did...

    They promoted their shop.... Why? Trickery? Yes they did...

     

    So many frustration... In just one day!!!!!

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    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    but that is not what they said to do. they said there would be an announcement and to go to the website at the appointed day and time to see what it is/was. that is actually the correct way to do it as sending 100K+ emails at once means that some people wouldn't get it until much later, for some it would be marked spam and for others it might not turn up at all.

     

    it is not their fault if you decided to not do what you were told to.

     

    as for the delayed selling date. well that never happened. they originally said they HOPED to be able to sell by q4 2011 but never guaranteed it would and the next date they mentioned was they HOPED to be able to start selling before March 1st which they did.

     

    yes they did say that they would be selling from their store but things change all the time and if you'd followed the instructions given to you then you would have known that.

     

    No trickery, No broken promises just someone who didn't follow the instructions so it's your own fault and i have no sympathy for you

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    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    I got no email. I checked my spam folders also.  No emails.

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    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Chris Goodwin wrote:

     

    I got no email. I checked my spam folders also.  No emails.

    Nothing on the 27th? I got three (different addresses, gmail, self hosted and ISP) and everyone I checked with in the states, england, australia, france & bosnia got theirs.

     

    it was also on the front page of the website and thus rss too but you should have received an email on the 27th although 100k+ emails at one time can cause some problems with the blacklisting services

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    johnbeetem over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    I was watching the RasPi forum a lot  on Feb 29th (I'm in California, so 6 AM GMT was 10PM) and a lot of people -- many of them regulars on the forum -- did not get the e-mail.  Even though RasPi's e-mail was sent out to the 100K or so people in small batches, many didn't get there.  One theory is that intermediate mail servers saw so much traffic from a single source that it discarded the e-mail as spam.  I wasn't on the e-mail list myself.

     

    A plea for civility [to posters on this thread]:  There are lots of disappointed people and RasPi was clearly overwhelmed by demand, but name-calling and accusations aren't going to help.

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    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Russell Davis wrote:

     

    Nothing on the 27th? I got three (different addresses, gmail, self hosted and ISP) and everyone I checked with in the states, england, australia, france & bosnia got theirs.

     

    it was also on the front page of the website and thus rss too but you should have received an email on the 27th although 100k+ emails at one time can cause some problems with the blacklisting services

     

    Nothing at all. The only emails I have received from RaspberryPi were the autoresponses when I signed up for the forums and created my store account, on Jan. 5 and 10 respectively. 

     

    I'm on Gmail, and while they are aggressive about stopping spam, they filter it into one place. I looked in the spam box as well, and nothing. 

     

    I'll agree that I "should have" received an email, but for some reason I didn't.  And I can't be the only one. 

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    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to johnbeetem

    What i'm taliing here is not about tech problems with email... i'm talking about intentional hiding important information from users:

    1) Email that was sent was totaly unclear about what will happen.

    2) There was no information about selling date until last moment

    3) Information about selling was not sent by email

    4) Information about selling was posted on a static html page thus no RSS

    5) Information about new shop was posted on static page in last moment without email or RSS

     

    So this is pure trickery... They do it on purpose, you can read on twitter(liz wrote: I am contractually forbidden to say. But I suggest setting your alarm clock)...

     

    That's why i'm angry... They just fu**** me up... All that time i spent on raspi monitoring is trashed for some unpredictable purpose(to lower server load??? or maybe to rise chances for  the "right"  people????????).

    Any way this is just frustrating =\ Total unrespect for raspi team for this set up...

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    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    OK, so you have this theory that they did it on purpose, in order to prevent you from buying a Pi from the first batch. Perhaps you are correct, but it seems an awful lot of trouble just to harm you. Do they have very serious reasons to hate you?

     

    From your last message it seems you have been following Raspberry Pi on Twitter. If this is so, I am really amazed that you didn't get the meaning of "Set your alarm clock". Every one else did. It is clear that the agreement between the foundation and the distributors (Farnell and RS components) prevented the foundation from pre-announcing the sale. So they did the best they could: They made it clear, without explicitly saying it.

     

    I also did not get a mail. Since Liz and the rest of the foundation have no reason to hate me, I assume this was a technical glitch, instead of a conspiracy against me. But then again, perhaps I was collateral damage of the conspiracy against YOU...

     

    Of course, in spite of the fact that I didn't get the mail, I had read in advance the site announcement, and on the two last days was following the twitter posts. So I knew exactly what was going to happen on Feb 29, 6:00 GMT. I did lose some sleep, spent around 3 hours trying to order through the two broken sites, and just may have been successful. My impression is that the foundation handled this in a very professional way, in spite of the fact that they are volunteers, not professionals. On the other hand, the distributors clearly messed up. Seems they didn't take seriously the warnings about the enormous traffic. On the Farnell site, I once managed to get a pi into my shopping basket, only to get a message that there was no price for this item, and have the sale aborted (this was, if I remember correctly, around 6:15-6:30). Then I tried the French Farnel site, only to find that it was impossible to preorder with a credit card. Then finally, after more than an hour, I found out that I should try to order through Farnel - export (I live in Greece). Now if the foundation had known in advance, and had the funds, they would have ordered a first batch of 200.000, and everything would have been fine. Only, as we say in Greece, if my grandmother had weels, she would have been a bicycle.

     

    Seriously now, there were 10.000 pis in the first batch, and more than ten times as much people who wanted them. There is no way on Earth they could satisfy everyone. No matter what they did, there would be more than 100.000 people left out of the first batch. This is what happened. Most of those who didn't make it accepted this gracefully. I assume it was inevitable that there would be one or two who wouldn't.

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    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    OK, so you have this theory that they did it on purpose, in order to prevent you from buying a Pi from the first batch. Perhaps you are correct, but it seems an awful lot of trouble just to harm you. Do they have very serious reasons to hate you?

     

    From your last message it seems you have been following Raspberry Pi on Twitter. If this is so, I am really amazed that you didn't get the meaning of "Set your alarm clock". Every one else did. It is clear that the agreement between the foundation and the distributors (Farnell and RS components) prevented the foundation from pre-announcing the sale. So they did the best they could: They made it clear, without explicitly saying it.

     

    I also did not get a mail. Since Liz and the rest of the foundation have no reason to hate me, I assume this was a technical glitch, instead of a conspiracy against me. But then again, perhaps I was collateral damage of the conspiracy against YOU...

     

    Of course, in spite of the fact that I didn't get the mail, I had read in advance the site announcement, and on the two last days was following the twitter posts. So I knew exactly what was going to happen on Feb 29, 6:00 GMT. I did lose some sleep, spent around 3 hours trying to order through the two broken sites, and just may have been successful. My impression is that the foundation handled this in a very professional way, in spite of the fact that they are volunteers, not professionals. On the other hand, the distributors clearly messed up. Seems they didn't take seriously the warnings about the enormous traffic. On the Farnell site, I once managed to get a pi into my shopping basket, only to get a message that there was no price for this item, and have the sale aborted (this was, if I remember correctly, around 6:15-6:30). Then I tried the French Farnel site, only to find that it was impossible to preorder with a credit card. Then finally, after more than an hour, I found out that I should try to order through Farnel - export (I live in Greece). Now if the foundation had known in advance, and had the funds, they would have ordered a first batch of 200.000, and everything would have been fine. Only, as we say in Greece, if my grandmother had weels, she would have been a bicycle.

     

    Seriously now, there were 10.000 pis in the first batch, and more than ten times as much people who wanted them. There is no way on Earth they could satisfy everyone. No matter what they did, there would be more than 100.000 people left out of the first batch. This is what happened. Most of those who didn't make it accepted this gracefully. I assume it was inevitable that there would be one or two who wouldn't.

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    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    They just don't warned me(and all others in the world) about this facts:

    1) Selling date

    2) Where to buy (they even deceived about raspberrypi.com)

     

    Last info about boards was "we are wating them from factory and will test them then sell"... So as for me they culd'nt sell boards without first testing them... They was clear about preorders... They say that there wuld not be preorders... But now they sold them by preorder(total trickery)!!!!

    They just made it all in very last moment for some NOT PREDICTABLE purpose... may be you are right about their NDA with farnell, but this is not excuse for them...

    I'm reading twitter now just post factum to see what was said there and it seems that it was alot more information there(discrimination)!

     

    PS: I know that demand is higher than availabily but i dont even get a chance! RasPi fundation deprived me...................

     

    PPS: Let's see what wuld happend if they warned all about sell date in 1 week... All users wuld start registering on farnell and wuld created real traffic.... Farnell admins wuld then have enaugh time to prepare servers for selling... All win.... Users wuld prepare their accounts and servers wuld be prepared for realy high traffic... ALL WIN!!!!!!!!!! So here is the question why wuld someone hide selling date from people!!!!!!!! Totaly unpredictable!!!! trickery beheviour!!!!!

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    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    I would be obliged if you would keep your posts on element14 and out of my

    inbox, that lengthy reply was not required by me.

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    johnbeetem over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    This is what worked for me:

    To turn off e-mail notifications, edit your profile by clicking on your name at the top of the screen (assuming you are logged in).  Then go to "manage e-mail notifications" and turn off notification of all discussions.  You also need to "edit preferences" and then select the "Email Notification Preferences" so that the default is no longer to get e-mail notification of discussions.

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