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How is Raspberry Pi supported?

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Former Member over 13 years ago

The User Guide told me to buy an SD card.  2GB min, more was better.  I bought a 16GB card.

The User Guide told me I can connect my Raspberry Pi to my TV using the HDMI port.  I did that.

 

The RPi doesn't boot, and the boot messages I do get are too wide for the wide-screen TV.  I suspect firmware problems, and yes I could try figuring out how to update the firmware by myself.  But taking a step back here, how is Raspberry Pi supported?  I know people have been saying "not every SD card is the same" but ultimately the User Guide didn't tell me to buy a specific card, just any SD card.  Maybe I was naive, but I was rather expecting a product that would boot up out-of-the-box.  Having already suffered the blow that it didn't come shipped with an SD card and a working OS, and that I had to buy an SD card and use some software to write an image to it, I am now in a position where I didn't want to be.  I've spent more money on an SD card than the RPi itself, it's not working, so what's the *official* support channel here?  Is it really just forums and "best efforts" support, or is there somewhere I can go to raise a support ticket and get a response governed by some SLA?

 

Thanks,

Mark.

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  • GreenYamo
    GreenYamo over 13 years ago

    Mark,

     

    There is no central support. If it has a hardware problem in that it is faulty, then you can ask the supplier (Farnel or RS) for a replacement or refund, governed by any particular retail laws in your area.

     

    I would suggest that further research would have been in order *before* you bought this device, as at no point have I expected it to come shipped with an SD card and / or a working OS. No one forced you to spend more on an SD card than the Pi itself cost, why would you do this when it would not seem you have a clear idea of what it can do or even what it is. I have a 4 gig card for mine that cost £4.99.

     

    Remember, you have paid around £24.99 for this and above it being a device unique at this price point, the Foundation are also charity. Expecting any sort of formal support against an SLA is pretty wide of the mark.

     

    I would suggest you re-sell for a nice profit on e-bay and buy something that does what you want, with the support that you want.

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  • morgaine
    morgaine over 13 years ago in reply to GreenYamo

    I don't know about the US, but in the UK (and probably in all of Europe) consumer laws do not have an exclusion for products that are cheap, nor for products that are cool, hyped, and objects of fanboi worship. image

     

    All retail products are required to be of merchantable quality and to fulfil the function expected of them, and when they do not meet that standard then the purchaser is entitled to recourse in the form of replacement or reimbursement, at their discretion.  They are also entitled to some reasonable level of customer service or support, the minimum acceptable level being to provide the statutory replacement or reimbursement in a responsive manner.  The relevant expectation with the Pi is that it should boot and all its features should work, and the relevant "SLA" here is stated in the consumer laws, which are mandatory, not a magnanimous offer.

     

    My advice to RS and to Premier Farnell alike is to reduce the opportunity for problems at the customer end by supplying as many Pi boards as possible with a small pre-programmed SD card that you have validated yourselves.  If you get the price of the card low enough, almost everyone with a modicum of commonsense will buy the Pi+SDcard bundle.  This saves them trouble and reduces your support costs simultaneously.

     

    Support is very expensive because manpower is very expensive, and you can't afford to offer a lot of support on a $35 product.  Even replacement or reimbursement costs you money in support, so try to avoid the possibility of customers not being able to boot the device at all costs.

     

    The wholesale cost to you of a 4GB (or even 2GB), old-tech SD card is so low that you might want to investigate the possibility of always supplying one as standard, for no other reason than to reduce the calls to support.

     

    Morgaine.

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    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to morgaine

    Interesting that here:

    http://elinux.org/RaspberryPiBoardVerifiedPeripherals#Problem_SD_Cards

     

    ...it suggests that problems with class 10 SDHC cards seems to be fixed and 'Further feedback will be useful.'  Prompts two questions from me:

     

    1) Perhaps a stupid question, but how do I tell what "class" of card I have?

    2) Further feedback to whom?  Looking at the history on the wiki page, none of the authors have their own pages, so wouldn't know how to contact them to provide any further feedback....

     

    Regards,

    Mark.

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  • johnbeetem
    johnbeetem over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    The Wikipedia article on SD cards shows symbols for card class.  I have some older cards that don't have any class (symbols), but I was able to see the C4 logo on the one I purchased for my RasPi-to-be.

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    johnbeetem over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    The Wikipedia article on SD cards shows symbols for card class.  I have some older cards that don't have any class (symbols), but I was able to see the C4 logo on the one I purchased for my RasPi-to-be.

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