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What other browsers work on RPi?

wallarug
wallarug over 13 years ago

I have the debian image which comes with "Midori" which is very slow.

 

I was wondering if there is a quicking browser for my image.

 

If so how do I get it?

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    Former Member over 13 years ago

    one other browser is NetSurf.

    The raspbian guys are saying good things about it.

     

    http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=8438&start=28

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  • fustini
    fustini over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    A big thanks for the tip!  I tried out a couple images last weekend and used NetSurf.  It's a breath of fresh air indeed.  No JS means some sites don't function correctly (like this one, oy) but it is so much better than trying to interpret pages as pure text in lynx or pulling out my hair waiting for midori to load pages.

     

    Thanks!

    Drew

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  • morgaine
    morgaine over 13 years ago in reply to fustini

    Midori is one of many (over half a dozen) lightweight browsers all based on webkit.  Most of them have a single-page paradigm, but a few support tabs as well --- Midori and Uzbl-tabbed are the best known for that.

     

    If Midori is giving you trouble, you might want to try some of the others.  I only care about open source ones, and of those, the ones I use occasionally other than Midori are:

     

    • Uzbl http://www.uzbl.org (come in three varieties, one of them tabbed)
    • LuaKit http://www.luakit.org
    • Jumanji http://pwmt.org/projects/jumanji
    • Surf http://surf.suckless.org/

     

    Of those, only LuaKit gets any significant use here.  Other similar lightweight browsers that I haven't tried personally but are also open source are:

     

    • Qupzilla http://www.qupzilla.com/
    • Arora http://code.google.com/p/arora/

     

    which don't appear to be available in Gentoo's Portage which may indicate that they have problems, or simply that they are new.  There's certainly no shortage of alternatives if Midori doesn't fit the bill.

     

    Morgaine.

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  • Montala
    Montala over 13 years ago in reply to morgaine

    Have you tried NetSurf (which coder27 mentioned earlier) Morgaine, and if so what do you think of it?

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    morgaine over 13 years ago in reply to Montala

    @David: No, I haven't tried NetSurf, nor knew about it.  It's not available in Gentoo's Portage, but I'll grab the sources and build it longhand on my main machines:

     

    • NetSurf - http://www.netsurf-browser.org/

     

    As indicated in coder27's linked item, obtaining NetSurf on Pi under Raspbian should be a simple matter of

     

    • apt-get install netsurf-gtk

     

    This doesn't work on my plain Debian install though, as "apt-cache search netsurf" finds various GIF and BMP decoder libraries but no "netsurf-gtk" browser, even after an apt-get update.  I expect that Debian just needs to be told about the Raspbian package repository (assuming the two repos are compatible), which I haven't looked into yet.

     

    Thanks to coder27 and yourself for mentioning it. image

     

    Morgaine.

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    morgaine over 13 years ago in reply to morgaine

    I found a description of the Debian repo issues on the Raspbian site, specifically:

     

    • http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianFAQ#Can_I_mix_packages_from_the_Debian_repositories_with_Raspbian.3F
    • http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianFAQ#What_do_I_need_in_my_sources.list_file_to_access_the_Raspbian_repository.3F

     

    Short version:  Raspbian uses armhf (Hard Float) architecture in contrast to the standard Debian ARM distro's armel which is soft float.  In general, you can't install any old package from an armhf system into an armel one and expect it to work.  There is a tool script "v7clean" that allows you to check whether a Raspbian package is armel compatible.

     

    I haven't checked netsurf-gtk with v7clean yet.

     

    Morgaine.

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    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to morgaine

    Morgaine,

      I think you may be misunderstanding what v7clean does.

    My understanding is that it predicts whether object code

    will run on raspbian, that is, it doesn't use any v7-only instructions.

    It doesn't predict whether raspbian code will run on armel.

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    morgaine over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    That's not what the code says, coder27.  I've got it here and the description is quite clear:

     

    v7clean (from http://pastebin.com/BtSdvrXM ) says:

     

    v7clean -- script to verify that a .deb and .udeb files are clean from armv7 code using the 'readelf' Linux utility.

     

    Standard Debian on ARM is armv6l, so it must not have any ARMv7 instructions in it or it won't run.  The script checks the number of files containing v6 and v7 instructions, and if the v7 count is greater than zero, it outputs "v7_dirty", which means that the package won't run on arv6l.

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    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to morgaine

    I still think you're confused.  The raspbian guys are pulling code

    from the debian v7 distro, and compiling for RPi (with different

    compilation flags), and wrote the v7clean script to warn them when

    that won't work due to v7-specific op codes.  They aren't concerned

    about whether code from their raspbian distro will work on a soft-float

    armel v6 version of debian, since they don't expect that to work due to

    abi differences.

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    morgaine over 13 years ago in reply to morgaine

    Interestingly, I've extended my copy of the script a little to show the actual CPU architecture tags for each file processed by readelf, and it shows that every .deb I've installed so far has ARM architecture v4T.

     

    That's positively antique, it's the architecture implemented on the ARM922T which predates even Pi's ARM11.

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    morgaine over 13 years ago in reply to morgaine

    Interestingly, I've extended my copy of the script a little to show the actual CPU architecture tags for each file processed by readelf, and it shows that every .deb I've installed so far has ARM architecture v4T.

     

    That's positively antique, it's the architecture implemented on the ARM922T which predates even Pi's ARM11.

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