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e14 Contributor
e14 Contributor over 14 years ago

http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=10869

 

In my experience, when you have around 10 known issues, you can

discuss the status of each of them in a 1 hour weekly meeting.  You can

easily notice when two are duplicates of each other, and combine them.

You can keep track of which ones have been reproduced, and which

need further information in order to reproduce.  You can keep track of

who is assigned to work each issue, and in what order they should work

them.  You can remember from week to week what the issues are about,

without having to spend all your time coming up to speed again on each

issue.  You can ask whether each issue presents an opportunity to

improve the documentation, or to improve the QA process.  You can

ask to review in detail the proposed fix for each problem, until you are

satisfied that the fix actually solves the problem without creating other problems.

You can ask whether each problem was caused by a fault in the tools used,

or the process used, and if so, whether to make improvements in those.

You can notice when multiple problems relate to the same component,

and perhaps decide to redesign that component rather than continually

patch it.  You can thoughtfully decide whether to deliver a fix as an urgent

update, or wait to deliver it in the next general release.  You can develop

regression tests to prevent the same or similar problems from ever being

shipped again.  And when a problem is fixed and the fix delivered, you

can move it off your agenda.

 

When you have about 100 known issues, it becomes much more

difficult to do the same tasks.  You can try to prioritize and focus on

just the top 10, but then the others suffer.  When you have about 1000

known issues, it becomes impossible to manage, and you will completely

lose track of which issues are duplicates of others, which are fixed, and

which are urgent.  If you release a product update, you will have no idea

what to say in the release notes.

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    e14 Contributor over 13 years ago

    There are now more than 2000 threads in the rpi.org troubleshooting forum,

    over 500 of them by my count are active within the last month.

     

    The single thread "USB - the Elephant in our Room" has over 500 postings.

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    e14 Contributor over 13 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    There are now more than 3000 threads in the troubleshooting forum,

    about 550 of which are active in the last month by my count.

     

    Gordon says on this thread:

    http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=26931

    "I am hoping to start working full time soon on the USB issues so should be able to get much further... Watch this space"

     

    Liz says on this thread:

    http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=26412

    "there's Pixman and Wayland optimisation work ongoing, for example, as well as Scratch optimisation"

     

    JamesH says on this thread:

    http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=26644

    "One thing that we do need to do is ensure that what are regarded as minor problems are not continually given exposure. One of these is the USB issue."

     

    JamesH says on this thread:

    http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=25501&p=245246

    "Even if 50% go in to drawers and fester, that's still 500k devices out there being used."

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    johnbeetem over 13 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    I see the same questions asked many times chez RasPi.  They don't have a good mechanism for merging a new thread into an old one so that entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem (Occam's Razor).  The Wiki is often very good.  I would suggest they hold a new thread for moderation and provide a link to the Wiki.

     

    Corrolary to JamesH's 50% comment: if 50% go into drawers and fester (sounds uncomfortable as well as smelly, but chacun a son goût), then doesn't that mean that the effective price of a RasPi doubles to US$70 and we might as well purchase a Hardkernel/Samsung ODROID-U with 1.4GHz ARM Cortex-A9 quad core or a Wandboard if you want open i.MX6 documentation (except for GPU)?

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    e14 Contributor over 13 years ago in reply to johnbeetem

    Yes, they clearly need some way of merging similar threads, in order to have

    someplace to track progress on each issue.  But they don't seem particularly

    interested in tracking progress on technical issues.

     

    JamesH's 50% comment was in response to user richardp who wrote:

    "In total I got 3 of them. I was going to conquer the world! In the end, all my interests were exhausted by broken firmware (ala USB Port) or incomplete examples to achieve anything useful (ala OMX).

    ... I have 1 XBMC player and 2 doing nothing."

     

    So in his case, the 2 doing nothing were due to the combination of

    technical problems (USB) and issues with available training materials.

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    e14 Contributor over 13 years ago in reply to johnbeetem

    John Beetem wrote:

     

    [...] we might as well purchase a Hardkernel/Samsung ODROID-U with 1.4GHz ARM Cortex-A9 quad core or a Wandboard if you want open i.MX6 documentation (except for GPU)?

     

    Some of us have already started down that route. I got a Sabre-Lite i.MX6 dev board recently and I have to say it's very nice. If you limit it to a 100Mb/s network connection, idle power consumption is on par with the Pi - rather good for a 1GHz quad core with 1GB ram.  Using a 1G network port almost doubles the power consumption, quite scary but not entirely unexpected.

     

    The really interesting things about the iMX6 for me are the SATA port and the PCIe port as it has the potential to open up a whole new set of posibilities that you just don't have with other Arm devices.

     

    So I'm looking forward to some interesting iMX6 based boards appearing in the next year. 

     

    I'd certainly love to see someone do what the RPF did and produce a cost and form-factor optimised board based on an iMX6 solo and 512MB ram. Comparing the Sabre-Lite and RPi side by side it certainly looks like it should be possible if you're prepared to make the same sort of ruthless compromises. No idea what it would cost, or if it would be worth it, but it would certainly be interesting as the SoC itself appears to be far more functional and better documented.

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    e14 Contributor over 13 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    There are now more than 4000 threads in the troubleshooting forum,

    as of last week, with about 520 active in the last month by my count.

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    e14 Contributor over 13 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    There are now more than 5000 threads in the troubleshooting forum,

    with about 450 active in the last month by my count.

     

    There are still frequent complaints about keyboards repeating and missing

    keys.   A patch to help with that was created on May 8, 2013,

    https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-firmware/commits/fiq_split

    but hasn't been installed yet even in the latest June 1, 2013 distro updates:

    http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/4128#comment-77671

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    e14 Contributor over 13 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    There are now more than 6000 threads in the troubleshooting forum,

    with about 525 active in the last month by my count.

     

    There is a new sticky describing USB issues at

    http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=53832

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    e14 Contributor over 13 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    It's obvious where you get the 6000 number from (open the forum look at the topic count)

     

    But how do you count "Active" topics?  Is that anything posted in the past month or anything that gets a reply?

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    e14 Contributor over 13 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    But how do you count "Active" topics?  Is that anything posted in the past month or anything that gets a reply?

    Threads that have any activity in the last month.

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    e14 Contributor over 13 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    But how do you count "Active" topics?  Is that anything posted in the past month or anything that gets a reply?

    Threads that have any activity in the last month.

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