Banned... No good deed goes unpunished

I shudder to think of the personality of whomever it was at RPF that devised their policy of extreme intolerance of discussion.  It was certainly no engineer nor educator, as neither wouild last 5 minutes in their jobs which require the ability to engage and understand others.  Perhaps a prison warden, that seems an appropriate background, although even a good prison warden would be better if he/she engaged with the gripes of inmates.

Be that as it may, it's very rare to find such hostility in community relations being implemented so blatantly and on such a public platform.  I've not encountered anything quite this extreme before, usually it's just one bad egg BOFH administrator unloading his personal problems on people, but what we see at RPF is quite different.  It's clearly a directed policy because it is so unwavering.

Blimey, you think its the worst you've seen - you can't get out much. Proof that second lifers are not that familar with the real world?

I'd really like to see some of this 'blatant' hostility. This extremism, this evidence of directed policy. Because to me, and presumably to most other non-sociopathic types, it's seems pretty good. Lots of politeness from most of the posters, very few people going off on one, a gneeral feeling, to me anyway, of everyone getting on.

Is that because all the bad eggs have been removed?

Michael Horne wrote:

I'm happy to 'be nice', tend to be in fact...

No, you're not. You have very selective memory Michael. Do you remember saying things like:

"Everytime I post on the Foundation website, I feel a little sick when Liz responds... It's becoming like Pavlov's Dog now..."

[http://www.element14.com/community/message/56481#56481]

Of course, this is the least of your personal abuse against Liz Upton and the RPF  -- one of the posts  that didn't get censored.

So keep tilting at those windmills by all means Michael - but don't delude yourself that you are "nice". Or blameless.

I use Google's "site:" feature when I know it's likely to be on a particular site (but most site forum search is not good) - but it's difficult to do that if you don't have a good site.  For instance, for RPi or ArchLinux ARM, there are several sites - I probably need to set up a custom search page so I can use Google's search API.

When I'm dealing with SQL Server or Oracle or .NET development, using site: is really too restrictive.

When searching for exact error messages, I find the StackExchange network to be very reliable and accurate.  For opinions or design issues, not so much.  As far as getting wikis built from either forums or Q&A, I've not seen that come to fruition.  Wikis improve, but whether that is directly based on forum activity, I don't know.  SE sites are actively courting authors to write blog postings about topics to elaborate on areas which need articles, but this is not producing an awful lot.

Hey Steve, is the attitude you don't like the one where that when you ask politely to have your IP's addresses released for your work colleagues, they do it for you? What a bunge of drongos they must be!

Bill

Eigen Ket wrote:

 

Michael Horne wrote:

I'm happy to 'be nice', tend to be in fact...

No, you're not. You have very selective memory Michael. Do you remember saying things like:

 

"Everytime I post on the Foundation website, I feel a little sick when Liz responds... It's becoming like Pavlov's Dog now..."

[http://www.element14.com/community/message/56481#56481]

 

Of course, this is the least of your personal abuse against Liz Upton and the RPF  -- one of the posts  that didn't get censored.

 

So keep tilting at those windmills by all means Michael - but don't delude yourself that you are "nice". Or blameless.

As far as I know, I've never had anything censored... Mind you, I wouldn't know as they don't tend to tell you when they have. I wouldn't call the Pavlov's Dog comment abusive, or anything like that... Unnecessarily sarcastic, perhaps, but taken in context at a time when there were a lot of knee-jerk responses related to USB, power supply etc, it still makes sense, even if the metaphor is a bit stretched. The funny thing is I actually love the Foundation's work, I really do - the Pi is a fantastic product. I just get frustrated when the public face ranges from "We've done this and aren't we fantastic" (which they are, considering what they've managed to accomplish) to sarcasm, bans and a general kneejerk reaction to uncomfortable questions.

Billy Thornton wrote:

 

Hey Steve, is the attitude you don't like the one where that when you ask politely to have your IP's addresses released for your work colleagues, they do it for you? What a bunge of drongos they must be!

 

 

Bill

Yawn.

The RasPi wiki is also excellent.

I sort of disagree with that, there's certainly lots of information there, finding the bit you're interested in and knowing if it's still relevant is not so easy.

Things change too rapidly, the SD card lists are a perfect example - I'm sure there's still stuff in the 'problem' list from April that works just fine now.

But quality depends on having people who care enough to update the wiki.

Well that's always the problem, things change, and the nature of what you're trying to document evolves more quickly than you can keep up with.

Steve Read wrote:

 

Billy Thornton wrote:

 

Hey Steve, is the attitude you don't like the one where that when you ask politely to have your IP's addresses released for your work colleagues, they do it for you? What a bunge of drongos they must be!

 

 

Bill

Yawn.

Hey mate, you tired of being exposed?

Wierd, had an email saying there was a post here that looked really interesting but it's gone. I guess hit too close to home. Had a load of Foundation name calling in, done by a poster here claiming it wasnt a place for name calling....just wanted to say - nice post dude. Wish I'd had to time to look at that stuff up!