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wallarug
wallarug over 11 years ago

Source:  Blog | Raspberry Pi

 

Enjoy!

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    Robert Peter Oakes over 11 years ago

    It is certainly a good improvement over the previous model, I have not seen anything about an upgraded poly fuse though, 4* usb is at minimal 2A + the current required for the board itself. so this should be paired with a 2.5 - 3A power brick minimum, this does not account for stuff attached for that nice new GPIO connector that from what I have seen is mostly backward compatible with the previous connector

     

    All round a welcome upgrade

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  • Robert Peter Oakes
    Robert Peter Oakes over 11 years ago

    It is certainly a good improvement over the previous model, I have not seen anything about an upgraded poly fuse though, 4* usb is at minimal 2A + the current required for the board itself. so this should be paired with a 2.5 - 3A power brick minimum, this does not account for stuff attached for that nice new GPIO connector that from what I have seen is mostly backward compatible with the previous connector

     

    All round a welcome upgrade

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    wallarug over 11 years ago in reply to Robert Peter Oakes

    With the new voltage regulators (is it all of them: 1v8, 3v3, 2v5, 5v0 ??), does that mean running the camera module will be more efficient as well?

     

    That would mean that you could be saving a lot more than just the 0.5 - 1 Watt stated on the RPi homepage.

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    rew over 11 years ago in reply to wallarug

    There is a single regulator chip, that provides 1.8 and 3.3V outputs. The 1.2V was already made with a switching regulator. 2.5? Audio? Most people say that using a switching regulator for audio purposes is not a good idea. Anyway, there are 2 visible inductors on my new 'pi, so I'd guess that the 2.5V is still a linear regulator. But with the current draw very low on that voltage line, the current savings would not warrant the cost increase.


    (The original 'pi was designed to be possible-to-produce / sell for $35, at say around 20k pieces. Now we know that they sell in the millions, so it has become possible to select slightly more expensive components that when purchased in the higher numbers end up still being cheaper than the original estimate at 20k items).

     

    Re: Analog in:

    Most microcontrollers/CPUs, like the for example attiny44, atmega328, PIC16F84, STM32F030 and STM32F405 all have an on chip ADC module. The BCM2835, simply doesn't have an ADC on the chip! So either you mount a separate ADC chip on each and every 'pi (i.e. expensive: 99% of the users are not going to be using it!), or you tell those that need the ADC to get one to connect on their expansion board. They decided against this last option. And I agree.

     

    And that's what this raspberry pi is all about. It is more or less a breakout for broadcom 2835 processor, with many on-chip-features brought out to connectors on the board. You can buy many "development kits" for other CPUs that have an LCD, and a bunch of other on-board-chips so you can test/develop for that CPU. But those boards tend to cost in the $100-$300 (and up) range. So the "raspberry pi" is a very good "other strategy" for what you get for that kind of money. But alas: No ADC.

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    wallarug over 11 years ago in reply to rew

    Do we know if this RPi supports PoE??

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    rew over 11 years ago in reply to wallarug

    Yes we do: it does not "out - of - the - box." The hardware to do POE properly costs about 20% of the cost of a 'pi. Maybe only 5-10% at bigger volumes. So the backwards-compatbile and "easy enough fro most people" solution was chosen: Power using a micro-USB connector.

     

    You can add a POE module yourself. Either a compliant one and feed the 'pi with a 5V made from the POE output. Or a "hacked" version where e.g. you put a voltage (e.g. 12-24V) on the unused wires in the cable and just use a DCDC converter to make 5V near the 'pi. (take care not to feed that voltage back into the switch and check what you need to do at the side of the 'pi. (maybe feeding it to the 'pi is acceptable, maybe not))

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