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gadget.iom over 10 years ago

A recent discussion by Robin Gunning (Raspberry pi powersupply change from micro usb to dc power plug) led me to investigate the feasibility of creating a board allowing a DC power jack to be connected to the Raspberry Pi.

 

 

I have created my first ever Eagle Schematic but would appreciate some feedback on the suitability of the design and any comments/suggestions you may have for improvements or potential pitfalls.

 

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The aim is to have a 26-way extension header so that shields can be added on top of this board. The 26-way header should also be compatible with the 40-way header on the newer plus editions of the Raspberry Pi.

 

Thanks

Paul

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    gadget.iom over 10 years ago

    Having done some further investigation I have decided that a 5v DC PSU would be the best approach. This would reduce the complexity, cost, and inhibit any of the potential overheat scenarios.

     

    The output connector on the model that Problemchild referenced earlier has output connector dimensions of: 2.1mm x 5.5mm x 12mm.

    Is this size suitable, or is there a more recommended/common connector size?

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    shabaz over 10 years ago in reply to gadget.iom

    Hi Paul,

     

    I feel the 2.1mm connector is the most common one, yes. There are also connectors with the same external diameter but with 2.5mm internal diameter.

    There is a DC connector available that will accept both sizes, but that's possibly overkill. Anyway, the same PCB footprint usually works for the 2.1mm and 2.5mm connectors

    (i.e. a footprint like the one below).

     

    image

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    gadget.iom over 10 years ago in reply to shabaz

    Thanks shabaz. Is that eagle you're using there?

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    shabaz over 10 years ago in reply to gadget.iom

    Hi Paul,

     

    It is, I think a similar package may already be in a supplied library, I tend to make my own off the part datasheet, so I just pasted a screenshot of it.

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    rew over 10 years ago in reply to shabaz

    The problem with those 5.5/2.1mm connectors is that they are common. People will have physically compatible powersupplies lying around the house that are of a different voltage, usually 12V or more. This will fry your 'pi for sure.

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    shabaz over 10 years ago in reply to rew

    That's true, if Paul wants to design for minimum user error risk, then a different connector or diameter may be an option. There are other non-technical ideas like the BBB and RIoTBoard use, where they have a big label marked 5V on the connector. I think it does work as a good reminder, a nice non-technical solution.

    I guess it really depends on your requirements Paul, and who will use the adapter (e.g. experienced users will already label their supplies or double-check before plugging in, but a kid might not). I have 5, 9, 12, 15, 24, 48V supplies all with this connector so I need to take care extra as an example, so I triple-check : )

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    gadget.iom over 10 years ago in reply to shabaz

    Thanks Rew and shabaz. Good feedback. image

     

    One of the earlier suggestions about using a 5v PSU directly indicated that many people have them lying around, so I thought I'd play on that strength, which is where the readily accessible standard connector may be an advantage.

     

    If over-voltage (which is very likely to present an issue) needs to be mitigated, how about placing a resettable fuse in series with the +5 line and then installing a zener diode (maybe 2 or 3 in parallel) that breaks down on a reverse voltage of over 5.3v for example. Would this trip the resettable fuse?

     

    Resettable Fuse:

    http://uk.farnell.com/bourns/rm008-240-2/fuse-resettable-ptc-240vac-80ma/dp/2366925

     

    Example Diodes:

    http://uk.farnell.com/nxp/plva653a-215/zener-diode-0-25w-5-3v-sot-23/dp/2439627?ost=zener&categoryId=700000004649

    http://uk.farnell.com/rohm/kdztr5-1b/diode-zener-5-1v-1w-sod-123/dp/2143976

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    shabaz over 10 years ago in reply to gadget.iom

    Hi Paul,

     

    You could use such an approach based on zeners as you say.

    I think just a text label could be "good enough" for RPI protection maybe (not everything needs an electronic solution), but a zener/fuse option may be cheap enough too (the zener

    needs to handle a high amount of current for a length of time, otherwise it could be damaged too - there are other tricks that use zener + MOSFET as an example).

    There are even dedicated ICs for this situation too - that's possibly a bit 'over the top' for protecting an RPI though.

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    shabaz over 10 years ago in reply to gadget.iom

    Hi Paul,

     

    You could use such an approach based on zeners as you say.

    I think just a text label could be "good enough" for RPI protection maybe (not everything needs an electronic solution), but a zener/fuse option may be cheap enough too (the zener

    needs to handle a high amount of current for a length of time, otherwise it could be damaged too - there are other tricks that use zener + MOSFET as an example).

    There are even dedicated ICs for this situation too - that's possibly a bit 'over the top' for protecting an RPI though.

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