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RPi Compute module high temperature operation

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Former Member over 9 years ago

Hello,

Hi, I am working in a prestudy project where we are looking at using the Raspberry Pi Compute Module in a building automation application.

We have difficulties finding info about temperature behavior.

 

Is there an absolute maximum rating specified for the Broadcom chip or the module as such?

 

What happens to the functionality of the chip when it reaches high temperatures? Are certain functions disabled? Does it shut down?

 

Any input appreciated.

 

BR Pål Dahle

 

 

 

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    0 clem57 over 9 years ago

    You can use code like this to get the Temps internal to the chip:

    vcgencmd measure_temp

    Shows core temperature of BCM2835 SoC.

    root@raspberrypi:~# vcgencmd measure_temp 
    temp=42.8'C

    From: RPI vcgencmd usage - eLinux.org

     

    Clem

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    0 rive over 9 years ago in reply to clem57

    This is better, not only shows thermals, but also the  freq (so you can see if you are throttling for either heat or voltage):

     

    2 sec readouts:

     

    Scrolling:

    while true; do vcgencmd measure_clock arm; vcgencmd measure_temp; sleep 2; done

     

    Non-scrolling:

    watch '(vcgencmd measure_temp; vcgencmd measure_clock arm)'

     

    @ Pål Dahle

     

    The module cannot have temps exceed 80C.

     

    However, this range is the maximum for the silicon die; therefore developers should take into account the heat generated when in use and make sure this does not cause the device temperature to exceed 80°C.

     

     

    At 80C the pi 3 throttles, at 85C all voltage and freq revert back to minimum defaults (for example, at 85C the Pi 3 reverts to 600 MHz). For under voltage, regardless of thermals, Pi 3 thottles/reverts to minimum voltage and freq.

     

    When the Pi throttles/reverts to minimum freq and voltages, performance of the Pi is reduced/degraded as a result.

     

    Here are some stock pi 3 benchmarks (A pi that overheats or is undervolted, will perform beneath the benchmarks, e.g., an undervolting/throttling Pi 3 may only pass at 3 Gflops on the linpack benchmark, indicating a computational performance degradation/loss of approx. 50%):

     

    Sysbench (CPU prime number test) -validated run (passes if completed in 119 seconds or less)

    Cpuburn-a53 (thermals and voltage test using neon Instructions) (passes if no throttling occurs, and can maintain thermals at 79C or lower)

    Linpack Bench (CPU floating point computing power test, thermals and voltage test using neon Instructions) ( passes if results are 'PASSED'  at 6 GFLOPS (6 billion operations per second) or higher)

     

     

    https://youtu.be/KuEZV0WsRLg?t=7m20s

     

     

    Test your Pi/Pi 3, and resolve any voltage/thermal issues as needed:

     

    ............................................................

    ...........................................................

     

    /////Sysbench///// 

     

    Install:

    sudo apt-get install sysbench

     

    run:
    sysbench --num-threads=4 --test=cpu --cpu-max-prime=20000 --validate run

     

    ............................................................

    ............................................................

     

    /////Cpuburn-a53/////

     

    Install:

    wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ssvb/cpuburn-arm/master/cpuburn-a53.S
    gcc -o cpuburn-a53 cpuburn-a53.S

     

    run:
    while true; do vcgencmd measure_clock arm; vcgencmd measure_temp; sleep 2; done& ./cpuburn-a53

     

    ..............................................................

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    /////Linpack Bench://///  Be sure to reboot after Install

     

    Install:

    sudo apt-get install libmpich-dev
    wget http://web.eece.maine.edu/~vweaver/junk/pi3_hpl.tar.gz
    tar -xvzf pi3_hpl.tar.gz
    chmod +x xhpl

     

    run:
    ./xhpl

     

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    0 rive over 9 years ago in reply to clem57

    This is better, not only shows thermals, but also the  freq (so you can see if you are throttling for either heat or voltage):

     

    2 sec readouts:

     

    Scrolling:

    while true; do vcgencmd measure_clock arm; vcgencmd measure_temp; sleep 2; done

     

    Non-scrolling:

    watch '(vcgencmd measure_temp; vcgencmd measure_clock arm)'

     

    @ Pål Dahle

     

    The module cannot have temps exceed 80C.

     

    However, this range is the maximum for the silicon die; therefore developers should take into account the heat generated when in use and make sure this does not cause the device temperature to exceed 80°C.

     

     

    At 80C the pi 3 throttles, at 85C all voltage and freq revert back to minimum defaults (for example, at 85C the Pi 3 reverts to 600 MHz). For under voltage, regardless of thermals, Pi 3 thottles/reverts to minimum voltage and freq.

     

    When the Pi throttles/reverts to minimum freq and voltages, performance of the Pi is reduced/degraded as a result.

     

    Here are some stock pi 3 benchmarks (A pi that overheats or is undervolted, will perform beneath the benchmarks, e.g., an undervolting/throttling Pi 3 may only pass at 3 Gflops on the linpack benchmark, indicating a computational performance degradation/loss of approx. 50%):

     

    Sysbench (CPU prime number test) -validated run (passes if completed in 119 seconds or less)

    Cpuburn-a53 (thermals and voltage test using neon Instructions) (passes if no throttling occurs, and can maintain thermals at 79C or lower)

    Linpack Bench (CPU floating point computing power test, thermals and voltage test using neon Instructions) ( passes if results are 'PASSED'  at 6 GFLOPS (6 billion operations per second) or higher)

     

     

    https://youtu.be/KuEZV0WsRLg?t=7m20s

     

     

    Test your Pi/Pi 3, and resolve any voltage/thermal issues as needed:

     

    ............................................................

    ...........................................................

     

    /////Sysbench///// 

     

    Install:

    sudo apt-get install sysbench

     

    run:
    sysbench --num-threads=4 --test=cpu --cpu-max-prime=20000 --validate run

     

    ............................................................

    ............................................................

     

    /////Cpuburn-a53/////

     

    Install:

    wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ssvb/cpuburn-arm/master/cpuburn-a53.S
    gcc -o cpuburn-a53 cpuburn-a53.S

     

    run:
    while true; do vcgencmd measure_clock arm; vcgencmd measure_temp; sleep 2; done& ./cpuburn-a53

     

    ..............................................................

    ..............................................................

     

    /////Linpack Bench://///  Be sure to reboot after Install

     

    Install:

    sudo apt-get install libmpich-dev
    wget http://web.eece.maine.edu/~vweaver/junk/pi3_hpl.tar.gz
    tar -xvzf pi3_hpl.tar.gz
    chmod +x xhpl

     

    run:
    ./xhpl

     

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