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Seeking Feedback on Roadtesting a Power Management IC with 5 other functions and code free configuration app

rscasny
rscasny 12 days ago

nPM1300 EKWe were talking to a sponsor about roadtesting its Power Management IC eval board.  While we have other roadtested other PMICs, this one has some unique features I think are worth looking into. I listened to a webinar on the product and it includes a lot:

  • Charger IC
  • 2 Buck DC/DC converters
  • 2 Load Switches
  • Fuel Gauge
  • External watchdog
  • Hard Reset IC

That's all on one chip!

Let me tell you about it. I'd appreciate your feedback and your vote in the prospective roadtester poll. Thanks.

nPM1300 EK block diagramWhat is the nPM1300 Evaluation Kit?

It's based on the nPM1300 is an integrated Power Management IC (PMIC) with advanced system management features. It has two highly efficient DC/DC buck regulators with configurable dual-mode output. It supports charging of lithium-ion, lithium-polymer, and lithium iron phosphate batteries at up to 800 mA through USB-C. Up to 600 mA of total regulated power can be supplied from two 200 mA BUCK regulators and two 50 mA LDOs to external components. The LDOs are configurable as load switches and can switch loads of up to 100 mA each.

What are some of the nPM1300's other features?

  • System-level watchdog
  • Intelligent power-loss warning
  • Ship and Hibernate modes for increased battery life
  • 5 GPIOs and 3 LED drivers
  • Fuel gauge when paired with an nRF52 or nRF53 Series host device
  • Battery connectors that support Negative Temperature Coefficient (NTC) connection for battery temperature monitoring
  • Easy access to PMIC voltage outputs through male pin headers and scope probe loops
  • Plug-and-play connection to nPM PowerUP, a computer app that enables quick evaluation and implementation of Nordic PMICs
  • Evaluate without writing any code or performing any device programming, when used with nPM PowerUP

Here are some links to documentation for further study:

Product Brief
Downloads
PowerUP App
Mfr page
Other Documentation

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  • eiriksle
    eiriksle 6 days ago in reply to misaz +7
    To get the best performance fuel gauge it's recommended to profile the battery at different temperatures representing the design's temperature range. Maxim recommends this for the MAX20303 as well. This…
  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett 11 days ago +3
    On paper it looks like a fine chip offering some useful features - I shall consider it for future designs. Its the kind of part that will always be used as part of a larger system - so ideally it needs…
  • robogary
    robogary 11 days ago in reply to scottiebabe +3
    Shhhhh.... dont tell. Here is the real recipe https://www.allrecipes.com/article/what-are-kfcs-11-herbs-and-spices/
  • misaz
    misaz 12 days ago

    I agree that it is very intereseting device which can significantly reduce the BOM. But it is not totaly unique. For example, MAX20303 can do almost the same and it is available since about 2017. In my opinion nPM1300 is direct competitor to the MAX20303 and the price will decide the "battle".

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  • balajivan1995
    balajivan1995 12 days ago in reply to misaz

    Nordic PMIC offers configuring via PC software, is it possible to do the same with Analog PMIC?

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  • misaz
    misaz 11 days ago in reply to balajivan1995

    Yes, it is. Both chips are configured using I2C interface. Analog (Maxim Integrated) is know for his hilarious PC software for evaluation kits and MAX20303 is no exception.

    I do not have evaluation kit at home, but in Datasheet I found screenshot:

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  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett 11 days ago

    On paper it looks like a fine chip offering some useful features - I shall consider it for future designs.

    Its the kind of part that will always be used as part of a larger system - so ideally it needs a Road Tester with a compatible project.

    It isn't appealing to me for a Road Test because if I were to use it in a commercial project the cost of blogging a Road test is way higher than just buying the board.

    (and customers can be sensitive about publicly discussing a project in progress)

    But I expect that there will be people with non-commercial projects where the Eval Board would be useful.

    MK

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  • scottiebabe
    scottiebabe 11 days ago

    Too much work for me, but I would be interested to read someone experience and findings trying the battery SoC algo 

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    https://infocenter.nordicsemi.com/index.jsp?topic=%2Fnan_045%2FAPP%2Fnan_045%2Fintro.html 

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  • misaz
    misaz 11 days ago in reply to scottiebabe

    Good point. In case of MAX20303 which I mentioned above it is much simpler. Algorithm and related magic constants are integrated in the chip and SoC you just read from register over I2C. It gives you a value in range 0 (0%) - 255 (100%). Possible disadvantage is that MAX chip is optimized to Li-ion (but it actualy work with Li-pol according to my findings). Nordic PMIC requires more work on your side, but algorithm is exchangable which allows adding support to more bytteries and more chemistries in the future.

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  • scottiebabe
    scottiebabe 11 days ago in reply to misaz

    Everyone has their own 11 herbs and spices Soc algorithm, not trying to say any particular one is better than another. Just interested to read about it.

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  • robogary
    robogary 11 days ago in reply to scottiebabe

    Shhhhh.... dont tell. Here is the real recipe https://www.allrecipes.com/article/what-are-kfcs-11-herbs-and-spices/   

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  • DAB
    DAB 10 days ago

    Could be an interesting board to play with.

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  • eiriksle
    eiriksle 6 days ago in reply to misaz

    To get the best performance fuel gauge it's recommended to profile the battery at different temperatures representing the design's temperature range. Maxim recommends this for the MAX20303 as well. This has traditionally been a complex and time consuming process involving specialized expensive equipment and shipping batteries to the PMIC vendor or a 3rd party. We have worked hard to reduce this complexity by allowing the designer to do the battery profiling themselves. Using only the nPM1300 Evaluation Kit together with a small add-on board you can easily profile the battery using the nPM PowerUP PC app, creating an accurate battery model.

    Eirik Slettahjell
    Technical Product Manager - PMICs - Nordic Semiconductor

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