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Is this the sound of a dead linear bearing?

baldengineer
baldengineer over 2 years ago

This video is from a Prusa MK3. It used to be intermittent. But now, whenever the y-axis moves, it makes this zip-tie noise.

I think the source is this bearing, but the high-pitched sound makes it difficult for me to localize.

Does it sound like a dead bearing to you?

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  • baldengineer
    baldengineer over 2 years ago +5 suggested
    New idler arrived. I used my backup mount to replace the stripped original. Currently, I am printing a PETG replacement for my backup PLA part. But the printer is working well, and no more binding…
  • dougw
    dougw over 2 years ago +3
    It sounds like you might even be missing some balls from the bearings and there is not enough grease in the race. Try lubrication. Grease may be better than oil for such a stutter. Also check the rod for…
  • hlipka
    hlipka over 2 years ago in reply to dougw +3
    No, the Y-belt idler is not symmetrical. Since the MK3S is open source, you can check the files here: https://www.printables.com/model/57217-i3-mk3s-printable-parts/files . When you click on the STL you…
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  • baldengineer
    0 baldengineer over 2 years ago

    The adventure continues.

    While removing the idler assembly, I noticed two things. The first is that the noise when away once it was loose. I found that... odd since the linear bearings would not have had a change in load. Then I found the lock nut for one of the screws was also loose. At first, it was nearly impossible to turn. Then It spun freely inside of the plastic housing. (The nut was supposed to be retained by the plastic.)

    M3 Hex Bolt Cap with bent threads

    So, yeah, that screw took some damage over time. (And probably some from my expert disassembly skills.)

    The second finding was that after finally removing the idler assembly, I noticed there was a dot on it!

    Left is my precision removal technique. Right is the new spare part I printed (years ago). It shows the dot.

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    I thought it was curious because I did not remember that dot when I assembled the printer.

    While re-reading the assembly instructions, I saw this tiny-yet-important-gem:

    Take the Y-belt-idler and place it on the front plate. Note there is a mark (circle) on the printed part facing up.

    I put the key sentence in bold.

    Yeah, so 3(?) years ago, I installed the idler wrong (upside-down). And the "intermittent" noise was likely stress on THAT bearing. So now I do believe the noise is a failing bearing, just not the one I initially thought.

    After 1500+ hours of print time, like that, I think it is safe to say I need to replace that pulley's bearing.

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  • dougw
    0 dougw over 2 years ago in reply to baldengineer

    It all looks symmetrical to me and the pulley is bi-directional. And yet it matters which way is up??? What is your theory on that?

    I could see how too much belt tension would increase bearing wear, or even how a loose screw could cause uneven loading, but how does orientation make a difference?

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  • dougw
    0 dougw over 2 years ago in reply to baldengineer

    It all looks symmetrical to me and the pulley is bi-directional. And yet it matters which way is up??? What is your theory on that?

    I could see how too much belt tension would increase bearing wear, or even how a loose screw could cause uneven loading, but how does orientation make a difference?

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  • beacon_dave
    0 beacon_dave over 2 years ago in reply to dougw

    Looks like there are more fundamental issues with the design here...

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  • baldengineer
    0 baldengineer over 2 years ago in reply to dougw

    It isn’t symmetric. There is a slight asymmetry to the design. 

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  • hlipka
    0 hlipka over 2 years ago in reply to dougw

    No, the Y-belt idler is not symmetrical. Since the MK3S is open source, you can check the files here: https://www.printables.com/model/57217-i3-mk3s-printable-parts/files . When you click on the STL you get a 3D viewer.

    When mounted upside down, the pulley sits too high which might lead to additional stress then the bed is in the most-front position.

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    0 baldengineer over 2 years ago in reply to hlipka

    Oh, no “might” about it. ;) I have a dead bearing to demonstrate. hehe.

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