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Toyota’s Unintended Acceleration Fix: Would a Software Solution Make More Sense?

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GardenState over 15 years ago
Toyota USA company president Jim Lentz today announced a fix for the unintended acceleration problems plaguing Toyota cars including Camry, Prius and Lexus. The company will reinforce the pedal assembly, thereby eliminating what it termed “friction that sometimes causes the sudden acceleration to occur.” Toyota will fix more than two million vehicles with sticking gas pedals and nearly five-and-a-half million with "defective" floor mats.
 
For cost reasons, among other things, carmakers do not employ full drive-by-wire systems in the same way as, say, Boeing uses fly-by-wire to control virtually every aspect of its new 787 airliner. Still, as in all modern vehicles Toyota does use an electronic throttle system to control the speed of its cars. Given that, rather than focusing on a mechanical fix I was wondering why Toyota engineers didn’t go directly to a software solution, establishing a brake override so that depressing the brake pedal temporarily disables the throttle—whether the accelerator is jammed in the wrong position or not.
 
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    Ghamble over 15 years ago

    I have been trying to find a clear description of what the issue is with the throtle. I heard something on the radio this morning about it being a magnet on sprung hinged joint the can stick, but have been abkle to find and good visuals of what part is at fault.

     

    I'm interested as I also heard that there is some discussion as to wether this is a software or hardware issue.

     

    Does anyone have a link to a picture or drawing of the offending part?

     

    P.S. I hear also that Toyota may have issues with the braking system on the new prius, has anyone heard anything about this?

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    Ghamble over 15 years ago

    I have been trying to find a clear description of what the issue is with the throtle. I heard something on the radio this morning about it being a magnet on sprung hinged joint the can stick, but have been abkle to find and good visuals of what part is at fault.

     

    I'm interested as I also heard that there is some discussion as to wether this is a software or hardware issue.

     

    Does anyone have a link to a picture or drawing of the offending part?

     

    P.S. I hear also that Toyota may have issues with the braking system on the new prius, has anyone heard anything about this?

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  • derricknewark
    derricknewark over 15 years ago in reply to Ghamble

    Toyota Pedal Recall Picture

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    Ghamble over 15 years ago in reply to derricknewark

    Thanks Derrick.

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    Former Member over 15 years ago in reply to Ghamble

    How about reducing the amount of software in a car. Why is a software actuated throttle better than a Bowden cable operated throttle? The Bowden cable is simple, cheap, reliable, fixable. The software solution is neither of these things. Maybe the software solution could yield a small improvement in MPG, but for sure when it fails there will be a time when the repair cost (so called "computer board") will be too expensive relative to the perceived value of the car and the car will be scrapped. The environmental cost of scrapping an otherwise usable car must exceed that of the small extra MPG of the software solution? This also of course extends to some of the other software solutions in the car. Heaven forbid when they start introducing steering by wire!

     

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