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Voltage Doubler Circuit to light a LED with a single AAA battery

fmilburn
fmilburn over 6 years ago

I told myself this morning if I did not have this solved by tonight myself I would post it on element14  :-) as a Holiday puzzle.  It seems simple enough....

 

The school my grandson goes to gives out little awards from time to time and he recently selected a "spy kit" as his reward.  Inside was a little flashlight / torch that wasn't working.  Since all spies need a miniature flashlight he asked me to see if I could fix it.  It turned out that it wasn't getting good contact on the positive terminal and was fairly easily fixed.  This is what it looks like working:

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While I had it apart I couldn't help examining it closer.  This is the (very cheap and poorly assembled) PCB.

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A single AAA battery powers it.  Negative is the red wire and positive is the bare wire coming up between the legs of the LED.  The datasheets for the two SOT-23 transistors (J3Y and 2TY) are online and the two resistors and inductor are marked.  I removed the capacitor and measured 0.5 nF.  Using a multimeter and following the traces in the photo above I came up with this for the schematic.

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This is what the output to the LED looks like on the oscilloscope:

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Voltage is doubled from 1.5V input to ~3V peak to peak output and is a rough square wave with duty of 24% on and 76% off.  Frequency is 215 kHZ.  I powered it with the bench supply to see how it behaved as the voltage was lowered and it continued to put out reduced light down to 0.7V input without problem.

 

I tried simulating the schematic above but only get 1.5V DC output.  I may have missed something when tracing the circuit but if so I missed it again when rechecking.  Or I may not be simulating it correctly / have wrong values somehow.

 

Having failed to convince myself I understand how it works I have decided to post it here and see what the experts say...

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  • Gough Lui
    Gough Lui over 6 years ago +6 suggested
    fmilburn - it's a known issue with the site that the images on the first post can't be seen by other members (myself included) due to permissions issues. If you can edit your post by making a trivial change…
  • 14rhb
    14rhb over 6 years ago +6 verified
    Hi Frank, I can see the diagrams OK. It strikes me as a bit strange that TR2 shorts the PSU - are you sure there isn't a connection between the anode of the LED (and inductor/cap) and the collector of…
  • geralds
    geralds over 6 years ago in reply to fmilburn +6 suggested
    Please can you post the second side of the PCB? Than we can better follow the circuit. So I think something is different as you've drawn. Also the value of the cap. may not 500pF, I think it's a bit larger…
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  • 14rhb
    0 14rhb over 6 years ago

    Hi Frank,

     

    I can see the diagrams OK.

     

    It strikes me as a bit strange that TR2 shorts the PSU - are you sure there isn't a connection between the anode of the LED (and inductor/cap) and the collector of TR2 ? It would make more sense if there was.

     

    Rod

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  • 14rhb
    0 14rhb over 6 years ago

    Hi Frank,

     

    I can see the diagrams OK.

     

    It strikes me as a bit strange that TR2 shorts the PSU - are you sure there isn't a connection between the anode of the LED (and inductor/cap) and the collector of TR2 ? It would make more sense if there was.

     

    Rod

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    0 fmilburn over 6 years ago in reply to 14rhb

    Now that you have pointed it out it makes more sense to me also (I still have not developed an intuition for what is happening in these type circuits).  I was fooled by using the beeper on the multimeter and of course getting no resistance across the inductor with DC.  I revised the model as shown below:

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    The model output is shown below:

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    It differs from the observation on the oscilloscope (Voltage only 2V, duty is different, etc.) but I presume that I am now on the right track?

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