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Muscle to micro servo circuit

Doppleganger
Doppleganger over 2 years ago

Morning all

So i started a Udemy class on Electronics and Robotics a while ago, and frankly I'm struggling. Apparently I'm great at building circuits from a photo or a video, but I have a lot of issues with schematics. Not super relevant to the post, but it may be helpful to you all to know where I'm coming from. I hope this isn't offside, but if some fine peeps could take a look at what I've built, see if I missed anything, or miss placed anything, that would be super helpful. Normally id just harass the instructor, but the class is 7 years old, and he is busy with other projects now and doesn't get back to me very often. 

So, red, orange and yellow wires on the left go to the micro servo. Blue, green and yellow at bottom right go to the muscle sensors. Top positive and bottom negative are 6v, and the neg is also my ground (unsure about that, prof kinda skimmed that detail). Top negative is positive 9v, and bottom positive is neg 9v. Did that just to keep things straight in my head. I didn't have a 1000 cap, hence the stack of 3 in the middle of the board. 

Main concern i have, that it dosnt work. Beyond that, from going through the class forum from many years ago, other students had a sh*t load of wires coming off the amp. I get that we all build differently, but just have 2, not 30. Maybe more weird than concerning.

Again, any insights are helpful.

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 2 years ago +5
    Hi, You don't seem to have wired up pins 4 and 11 of the TL074 chip.
  • rad_bcit
    rad_bcit over 2 years ago +4
    Hello, I teach breadboarding skills and my immediate reaction to your photos is to say that the easiest remedy to your wiring issues is to tidy up the way you do your breadboarding. I would ask you to…
  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett over 2 years ago in reply to Doppleganger +4
    I looked through the replies you got and didn't find any at all with the phrases you quoted. It seemed quite a good response to me, you got a lot of good and relevant answers and the usual E14 diversions…
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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 2 years ago

    What's the web link for the actual course?

    Their work is really poor. They have all their battery symbols with the wrong polarity. Also they don't know how to draw a decent schematic : (

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    If you're looking for circuits with ~100% chance of working, then this website is really good, lots of beginner circuits: https://www.talkingelectronics.com/projects/50%20-%20555%20Circuits/50%20-%20555%20Circuits.html

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 2 years ago in reply to shabaz
    shabaz said:
    Also they don't know how to draw a decent schematic

    Did you also learn at school that when you have a cross on a schematic, it is not a connection node (unless for some drawing styles, where it has a big dot on it)?

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 2 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    Exactly that. Personally I don't ever draw a dot on a crossing, since the dot is easy to miss when looking at a small printout or zoomed-out image on the screen, but a lot of circuits do that dot on crossing style, sometime with the hump bridge on the lines that are definitely not crossed. But when there's no hump, it's hard to tell if the rest are using dots or not, if the dots are very small : ( Maybe I'm being too fussy, since it was kind of clear that pins 8 and 4 were connected together. Maybe harder for a beginner.

    Just noticed the capacitor symbol is interesting too.. the plates are touching. But perhaps that too is being pedantic! 

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 2 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    Exactly that. Personally I don't ever draw a dot on a crossing, since the dot is easy to miss when looking at a small printout or zoomed-out image on the screen, but a lot of circuits do that dot on crossing style, sometime with the hump bridge on the lines that are definitely not crossed. But when there's no hump, it's hard to tell if the rest are using dots or not, if the dots are very small : ( Maybe I'm being too fussy, since it was kind of clear that pins 8 and 4 were connected together. Maybe harder for a beginner.

    Just noticed the capacitor symbol is interesting too.. the plates are touching. But perhaps that too is being pedantic! 

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 2 years ago in reply to shabaz

    one of the biggest troubles with the dot, was that 

    • it often got lost when using a photocopier
    • line crossings got smurky when using a photocopier, and looked like a dot.
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  • beacon_dave
    beacon_dave over 2 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    I used to always break the line at the crossing point into two 45degree connections to avoid any confusion.

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 2 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    I was looking for examples, and this one with the angled line works well. They were definitely more creative in the past with best explaining their circuits.

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    However this one in the same book is not so good:

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    Still, can't blame them too much, since it was clearly hand-inked, and mistakes can be made. But for sure when I was a beginner, that transistor circuit diagram would have confused me.

    Nowadays at least we have CAD.. although I still came up with a mess here.. it's a mixer layout that was started but never finished:

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    At least the crossings are at an angle, but it's really hard to follow regardless. Also, this was done in EAGLE, and it doesn't understand components at 45 degrees.. I don't know if KiCad does.

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 2 years ago in reply to shabaz

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    My brain just melted Scream. For some reason it works well with rectifiers and Wheatstone bridges.

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 2 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    Hehe just a irritatingly complicated diagram to show that the left side input gets alternatively inverted to the right side, based on the two out-of-phase inputs arriving from the bottom two wires.

    Easiest way to see that is to notice that one of the bottom wires (the left one) is connected to the top-right FET and the lower-left FET gates. Whereas the other bottom wire is connected to the other two diagonal FET gates. 

    The aim was to chop the left side input, based on the frequency arriving from the local oscillator which is connected at the bottom.

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  • anniel747
    anniel747 over 2 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    A bit more work and one could get a nice artistic drawing.

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