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cga to vga converter uPython

rlaci
rlaci over 1 year ago

Hi

im new to uPython and needing some help with fast interrupts, port handling, reading into controller, handling the big amount of data and speed

my main aim is to get it working on raspberry pico, as colors 1bit resolution is enought as its an industrial equiment with RGBHV 15.6khz input(output from the machine) need to transfer it to 31khz VGA standard output for an lcd monitor

any help welcome

thanks!

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 1 year ago +3
    There's a website listing monitors that support your resolution: http://15khz.wikidot.com/ I think it's far more likely that you'll be able to source a monitor if you search long enough on eBay, than…
  • beacon_dave
    beacon_dave over 1 year ago in reply to shabaz +3
    There is a PIO based implementation of a VGA driver discussed here if anyone is interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXMdZGQzrWg
  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett over 1 year ago in reply to rlaci +3
    It's very, very difficult. You need to delve quite deeply into the data sheets. The things to look for are the IO toggle rate, maximum clock rate of internal RAM, and maybe some benchmarks of complete…
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  • dougw
    0 dougw over 1 year ago

    Are you looking for something like this RGB to VGA adapter? They cost about $1.

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  • beacon_dave
    0 beacon_dave over 1 year ago in reply to dougw

    I think they mean the old IBMPC Color Graphics Array RGBI TTL output

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_Graphics_Adapter#DE-9_connector_for_RGBI_monitor

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    0 beacon_dave over 1 year ago in reply to rlaci

    Probably just ignoring the intensity bit in that case.

    Perhaps something more like this then:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mcbazel-Arcade-Converter-Monitor-Projector-Black/dp/B078ZDTLBJ/ref=sr_1_1

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  • shabaz
    0 shabaz over 1 year ago in reply to beacon_dave

    That looks like it will do the job!

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    0 rlaci over 1 year ago in reply to shabaz

    i saw that cable before and i predict its from vga to rgb not from rgb to vga

    solutions what i found as standalone products:

    - GBS2019 Xvga box but was highly delayed when i first searched it

    - getting a 15khz monitor, i got one and not working possibly the 63Hz vertical sync messes it up

    - Extron VS 304 looks documented like can work, but at the rgbhv place the resolution was not really documented i got this info here from beacon_dave

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  • beacon_dave
    0 beacon_dave over 1 year ago in reply to rlaci
    rlaci said:
    i saw that cable before and i predict its from vga to rgb not from rgb to vga

    It's a bidirectional cable but passive.

    AV installs often ran RGBHV over 5 coax cables whereas PC's used the 15pin Hi Density 'D' type connector with additional I2C DDC data line. Early multisync monitors used to come with the 5x BNC as default as well. These type of cables were common place to convert between the two physical formats.

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    0 rlaci over 1 year ago in reply to beacon_dave

    i saw a DVS 406 unit in europe, is it better or worse newer older equipment?

    i hope it does not mean the signal just passes throught and no processing done for the output signal :D

    • Scales composite video, S-video, component video, and optional SDI inputs with RGBHV pass-through
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  • beacon_dave
    0 beacon_dave over 1 year ago in reply to rlaci

    Similar unit, just more inputs and has the pass through functionality. Looks like it is optimised for PAL / NTSC video though but that might just be the sales pitch.

    The pass through is an input loop feature that allows you to insert the device into an existing signal path without interrupting it. The scaling happens between the inputs on the left and the outputs on the right.

    I don't think either of these boxes are much use to you if you definitely have the original CGA TTL level signals, unless you were to convert the levels first.

    The board I linked to on Amazon, looks a closer match for your needs, as it looks like it has been designed for the 1980s CGA/EGA TTL level signals. Looks like it is aimed at keeping some of the early video gaming systems alive with modern displays. 

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  • beacon_dave
    0 beacon_dave over 1 year ago in reply to rlaci

    Some more to check out

    https://www.serdashop.com/MCE2VGA

    ( https://github.com/lfantoniosi/mce2vga )

    https://www.serdashop.com/MCE2HDMI

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    0 rlaci over 1 year ago in reply to beacon_dave

    this card is documented that not working with industrial equipment even if its advertised that it should, i bought one similiar card recently and nothing

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    0 beacon_dave over 1 year ago in reply to rlaci

    How about this R-Pi Zero + CPLD based one:

    https://github.com/hoglet67/RGBtoHDMI/wiki

    You would need an HDMI monitor or a HDMI to VGA adapter.

    However it has options to create custom timing profiles or alternatively the design is there to roll your own.

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    0 rlaci over 1 year ago in reply to beacon_dave

    Yeah i started it because i think its doable but as using my logic analyzer and looking at different boards and different codes, the signal processing looks pretty erratic for me and the stated cycle clocks are usually different in reality as in theory

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    0 rlaci over 1 year ago in reply to beacon_dave

    Yeah i started it because i think its doable but as using my logic analyzer and looking at different boards and different codes, the signal processing looks pretty erratic for me and the stated cycle clocks are usually different in reality as in theory

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