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UKCA (or CE) marking required for LED ceiling lamps?

Andrew J
Andrew J over 1 year ago

One for the sparkys here in the UK: does an LED ceiling lamp sold in the UK market require a UKCA (or CE) marking?  Any other marking to show regulatory compliance, if necessary?

I ask, because I have received a LED ceiling lamp that has 7 arms with LEDs in a round metal holder at the ends.  It is intended for direct connection to the 240V lighting circuit with the full voltage going to each metal holder at the end of the arms (no earthing point in those metal holders.)

The ceiling rose is also metal, has no earthing point, has 30AWG (or close) out to the LED holders intended to be connected to supplied (but not fitted) slightly thicker wires which then need to be connected to the lighting circuit.  Frankly, it looks dangerous to me and I'm not installing it; really I ought to have known better but there you go, impulse purchase.

I'm going to push for money back and wanted to know if a lack of regulatory marking was something I could add to the evidence.

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 1 year ago in reply to Andrew J +4
    Offer it to the altar of the god of unsafe UK appliances: https://www.bigclive.com/
  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 1 year ago +2
    Not going to comment on UK standards, but on the safety and grounding expectations: Does it have this symbol for double isolation on it? That would define that it's supposed to be wired without ground…
  • Andrew J
    Andrew J over 1 year ago in reply to Jan Cumps +2
    If they don't send me a return label perhaps I will
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    0 phoenixcomm over 1 year ago

     Andrew J Ok Ill bite, im in the US! First, all appliances must be fully grounded!! (you know the third plug even in the UK!)  The second, LED of that type has a dropping Resistor or some sort of low-voltage generation. Take away. its TRASH it will KILL you if it fails! if it does not have the ground find metal and connect it to the ground in the wall. 

    Say a prayer to the Gods and ask not to be killed today!!  then toss it into the bin! ~~Cris H. 

    all of my LED Lighting are run off a Transformer!!  (and a series resistor) now say Amen! 

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    0 phoenixcomm over 1 year ago

     Andrew J Ok Ill bite, im in the US! First, all appliances must be fully grounded!! (you know the third plug even in the UK!)  The second, LED of that type has a dropping Resistor or some sort of low-voltage generation. Take away. its TRASH it will KILL you if it fails! if it does not have the ground find metal and connect it to the ground in the wall. 

    Say a prayer to the Gods and ask not to be killed today!!  then toss it into the bin! ~~Cris H. 

    all of my LED Lighting are run off a Transformer!!  (and a series resistor) now say Amen! 

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    0 Jan Cumps over 1 year ago in reply to phoenixcomm
    phoenixcomm said:
    First, all appliances must be fully grounded!!

    Biting back Slight smile

    Double isolated appliances should not be grounded.

    phoenixcomm said:
    LED of that type has a dropping Resistor or some sort of low-voltage generation.

    No. It has an IC with current regulation. That lamp is not a dropper design.

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