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brianchadorourke
brianchadorourke over 10 years ago

Hi.  I'm trying to attach sensors to my cats.  They don't appreciate it as much as I do.  What have y'all done to attach sensors to your pets? 

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  • mcb1
    mcb1 over 10 years ago in reply to Robert Peter Oakes +2
    I've done a bit of work on this. The bigger coil isn't the answer, its improving the Q of the coil which gives the 'gain' you need. Frederick has done a 'cat detector' in his Forget Me Not challenge fvan…
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    mcb1 over 10 years ago in reply to Robert Peter Oakes +2 suggested
    Peter The tags use a similar data format, but they are 134KHz rather than 125KHz. Obviously the antenna in the implanted chip is smaller, so therefore its affect on the reader is less, hence why you need…
  • mcb1
    mcb1 over 10 years ago in reply to gadget.iom +2
    gadget.iom I was asked to look at making an RFID door using one of these. (keeping with the NZ manufacturer) http://www.transcat.co.nz/products.html It came about through my articles in The Shed magazine…
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  • Robert Peter Oakes
    0 Robert Peter Oakes over 10 years ago

    RFID Keyfob on a collar to activate the cat flap is a project in the works

     

    Hardest thing at the moment is getting a big enough coil for the cat to walk through and still sense the keyfob, that and building a flap that works at 20 below in 3 feet of snow (Well maybe a foot)

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    0 mcb1 over 10 years ago in reply to Robert Peter Oakes

    I've done a bit of work on this.

    The bigger coil isn't the answer, its improving the Q of the coil which gives the 'gain' you need.

     

    Frederick has done a 'cat detector' in his Forget Me Not challenge

    fvan

    [CaTS] ForgetMeNot - Week 9: RFID Cat detection and identification

     

     

    If your cat's are micro-chipped, its usually in their shoulder, so aiming to have a 'veranda' to rub against is the best location of the coil.

    they will soon learn they need to rub against it and when it beeps, they can get in.

     

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    0 gadget.iom over 10 years ago in reply to mcb1

    Was thinking along the same lines with chipped pets.

    Then you don't have a struggle on your hands trying to attach something.

     

    Our cats were notoriously efficient at removing collars.

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    0 mcb1 over 10 years ago in reply to gadget.iom

    gadget.iom

    Our cats were notoriously efficient at removing collars

    You also need to have collars that will detach if the cat gets caught.

     

    Therefore chipping them is the easiest way, plus if they ever get lost they can be returned quickly.

     

    Mark

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    0 Robert Peter Oakes over 10 years ago in reply to mcb1

    That was also the other avenue I was looking at for the cat flap, the RFID chips embedded in them though are not the same as the cheapo ones from eBay (125Khz or 13Mhz) so will take a little more investigation and hardware to decode the data

     

     

     

    You can but flaps already for this purpose but there expensive ($250 ish) and probably won’t handle the -20 deg temperature and covered with snow requirements of here in Canada

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    0 gadget.iom over 10 years ago in reply to Robert Peter Oakes

    There seems to have been a few different frequencies employed in these tags. I found some basic information here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microchip_implant_(animal) and here: http://blog.adoptandshop.org/5-things-you-didnt-know-microchips/

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    0 mcb1 over 10 years ago in reply to Robert Peter Oakes

    Peter

    The tags use a similar data format, but they are 134KHz rather than 125KHz.

     

    Obviously the antenna in the implanted chip is smaller, so therefore its affect on the reader is less, hence why you need a higher Q antenna.

    (They work by shorting the antenna which then detunes the reader antenna)

     

    There is an Australian supplier who can supply the whole reader or the chips, and Robert Accardi is a great guy to converse with.

    http://www.priority1design.com.au/shopfront/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=24

     

    Texas Instruments has these

    http://www.ti.com/tool/mrd2evm

    They also have some IC's that are -40 degC and remote antenna options.

    http://www.ti.com/lsds/ti/wireless_connectivity/nfc_rfid/products.page#p1507=134.2%20kHz&p199=I/O%20Logic

     

    OreganRFID have tags, but so does any vet

    http://www.oregonrfid.com/

     

     

    I agree the commercial ones can be expensive, but one design had a porch like extension, which may be an idea to keep out the snow.

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    http://intl.petsafe.net/en-gb/support/doors/cat/big-cat-small-dog/petporte-smart-flap-microchip-cat-flap

     

     

    @fvan

    Looks like this is a very nice feeder.

    https://www.sureflap.com/en-gb/pet-feeder/microchip-pet-feeder

     

     

    You guys are making me want to resurect my project ...

     

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    0 gadget.iom over 10 years ago in reply to mcb1

    What was your project Mark?

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    0 mcb1 over 10 years ago in reply to gadget.iom

    gadget.iom

    I was asked to look at making an RFID door using one of these. (keeping with the NZ manufacturer)

    http://www.transcat.co.nz/products.html

     

    It came about through my articles in The Shed magazine.

    The brief was to try to NOT add the 'extension' and retain the clear aspects of the door.

    They already have a magnetic lock, but the magnets drop off, other cats can get in, etc.

     

    We wanted it to be able to be made by others, rather than having to buy a particular antenna.

     

    It might be time to resurrect the project ..... especially since TI has some chips that might be the answer.

     

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    0 mcb1 over 10 years ago in reply to gadget.iom

    gadget.iom

    I was asked to look at making an RFID door using one of these. (keeping with the NZ manufacturer)

    http://www.transcat.co.nz/products.html

     

    It came about through my articles in The Shed magazine.

    The brief was to try to NOT add the 'extension' and retain the clear aspects of the door.

    They already have a magnetic lock, but the magnets drop off, other cats can get in, etc.

     

    We wanted it to be able to be made by others, rather than having to buy a particular antenna.

     

    It might be time to resurrect the project ..... especially since TI has some chips that might be the answer.

     

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    0 gadget.iom over 10 years ago in reply to mcb1

    That does sound like a good project.

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