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Solar Based Battery Charger.....

Muju4mFrnL
Muju4mFrnL over 15 years ago


Please let me know the basic criterias involved or to be considered in making a SOLAR BASED Li-ion BATTERY CHARGER?

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  • enrico.migchels
    enrico.migchels over 15 years ago

    Dear Mujahid,

     

    Making use of MPPT is pretty much essential for loading an solar panel. The output power fluctuates over light intensity and temperature. If you look at the output power curves you will understand that not regulated on the maximum power will make your design far less effective. I have seen an application note on the Microchip website suggesting a microcontroller (PICmicro) to have a boost (DC/DC-converter) with MPPT on the solar panel. It is hard to circumvent microcontrollers in this kind of complex applications.

     

    Best regards,

     

    Enrico Migchels

    Power conversion design engineer

    Best - The Netherlands

    www.heliox.nl

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    Muju4mFrnL over 15 years ago in reply to enrico.migchels

    I agree with you but i just have a doubt on the ciruit below using LTC1734.This is a direct solution from LTC. Inother words could you let me know the which could be the best MMPT IC to be used along witht he LTC1734 here???image

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    enrico.migchels over 15 years ago in reply to Muju4mFrnL

    Hi Mujahid,

     

    The LTC is 'just' a battery charger which regulates the current trough and the voltage of the battery. Your solar charger must have the same charge characteristic as the LTC1730 but additional have a converter on the input stage which regulates the energy coming from the PV cells to a fixed DC voltage with maximum power tracking incoperated. Look at AN1211 'maximum power solar converter' on www.microchip.com to see what i mean. I would say that if you use a microcontroller for this function it might as well regulate the current through the battery and measure the output voltage.

     

    Best regards,

     

    Enrico Migchels

    Power conversion design engineer

    Heliox B.V.

    Best - The Netherlands

    www.heliox.nl

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    Muju4mFrnL over 15 years ago in reply to enrico.migchels

    Hi Enrico,

     

    thank you for you valuable feedback and will just check with MPPT and get back. Please let me any redy designs that you know of on for solar panel and will be very helpful.

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    Muju4mFrnL over 15 years ago in reply to enrico.migchels

    Hi Enrico,

     


    Any feeback from you would be appirciated inorder to check this can be adopted to redesign for what i had started with?

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    Muju4mFrnL over 15 years ago in reply to enrico.migchels

    Hi Enrico,

     


    Any feeback from you would be appirciated inorder to check this can be adopted to redesign for what i had started with?

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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 15 years ago in reply to Muju4mFrnL
    Mujahid, it is very interesting project, Can I know what kind solar cell or panel you will deploy in your design? I am not sure if there are any formula to calculate the power of solar cell? For example, the battery capacity is 1000mAH, if I plan to complete the charge within 6 hours, what is the suggested solar cell capacity?  This question is also for anyone who has good experience in Solar Power related technology, I expect somebody can help on. Many thanks.
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    Muju4mFrnL over 15 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Hi Austin,

     

    Thanks for you concern on this.

     

    If we need to  charge a battery with 1000mAh capacity within 6hrs then a panel with current  output equal to 167mA (1000mAh/6) is required. If the charger/regulator circuit  requires a minimum voltage (as Vin)of about 5V, then a solar panel with approximately 1W  (i.e. 5V*167mA) is required.

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    enrico.migchels over 15 years ago in reply to Muju4mFrnL

    Hi Mujahid,

     

    Don't forget that the charger itself is consuming energy and that it takes extra energy to store energy into a battery. Your overall system efficiency will be signifant lower than 100%. I would estimate, 90% for the charger and 85% for the battery, resulting in 0.9 x 0.85 = 76% overall efficiency (1W should than be at least 1.31W). I think that the maximum panel output power will not be reached because of the fluctuating light intensity. Try to estimate this!

     

    Best regards,

     

    Enrico Migchels

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    Former Member over 15 years ago in reply to enrico.migchels

    Hi, Enrinco:

     

    I agree with your point, the conversion efficiency from the ouput of solar cell to Charge IC, the power consumpation of Charge circuit, Charge efficiency on Batttery, the vary of the light intensity should be considered when we calculate the power rating of solar cell. Do you know if there are any common formula for this calculation in the industry? Or any solar cell suppliers can provide the application notes about this kind of design?

     

    I am also curious about how to test the power conversion  from light to electric power, any testing equipment can help to get this data. I know that is very important parameter for this solar charge system. Thanks.

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    enrico.migchels over 15 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Hi Austinsu,

     

    I'm not an expert on this but i would assume that you use the specification of the solar cell provider to work with. You need to estimate the average power coming out of the cell in 6 hours time. This is pretty much based on the field of use. (place of use, time of day, etc). You need to come up with statistical data that you estimation is that in .. % of the chargecycles the output power of the energy cell is .. W. You make your design based in those figures. Try is simulate this by using an articifial light source (which matches the spectrum of the sun) and measure the light intensity with a lux meter. (lacie sells those devices). Use MPPT for the charger unit and the efficiency of the whole chain is measured by 6 hours of xx light intensity on the cell and after that; discharge the battery on a electronic load (current constant) and trace the voltage-curve. This will give to the amount of watt.hours available for the application.

     

    Best regards,

     

    Enrico Migchels

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  • francovecchi
    francovecchi over 15 years ago in reply to enrico.migchels

    You must consider that the nominal power of the solar panel is referred at full  and perfectly perpendicular sunlight!

     

    using it for portable device I think that is impossible to have this condition for 6 hour!

    I think you can multiply the time of charge for 2 or 3 times....or more, or use a bigger solar cell.

     

    franco

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  • Muju4mFrnL
    Muju4mFrnL over 15 years ago in reply to francovecchi

    We are designing the circuit for solar charger; we have a small problem in selecting the Inductor , even though there is a Equation given for Selecting the Inductor, I tried for the Application Information given in the datasheet they say Delta Imax to be between 0.25 to 0.35 of the max. charging current. But When I do reverse calculation for Delta Imax, for the example below its no where matching. Please can anyone help me in giving the solution for the same?

     

    TYPICAL APPLICATION1A Solar Panel Powered 3-Stage 12V Lead-Acid Fast/Float Charger; 1A Charger Fast Charges with CC/CVCharacteristics Up to 14.4V; When Charge Current Falls to 0.1A Charger Switches to 13.5V Float Charge Mode;Charger Re-Initiates 14.4V Fast Charge Mode if Battery Voltage Falls Below 13.2V and Trickle Charges at 0.15A ifBattery Voltage is Below 10V; 0°C to 45°C Battery Temperature Charging Range HERE please explain me how that 22uH has arrived or taken based on the design The values here are Rsense = 0.1ohmVIN(max) = 16V VBAT(FLT) = 12V, ΔImax = 30% of 1A = 0.3A, L= ???????????

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    Former Member over 15 years ago in reply to Muju4mFrnL

    Hi Mujahid,

     

    As per the Discussion we had with one of the Support Engineer from Linear Tech. , VIN(max) = 32 V(Maximum input Voltage to the Charger IC) and not peak power voltage from the  panel. Also ΔImax is not 30% of charging current, its value should be between 0.25 to 0.30. By using these values in equation for Selecting the Inductor, we get the Inductor Value.

     

    Regards,

    Chethan R.S.

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