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Piezo film sensor for footstep detection

will_hs
will_hs over 5 years ago

I’m currently looking into detecting footsteps on a wooden floor using piezoelectric sensors and recording the output as audio.

 

After some research it seemed like a cantilever piezo film sensor might be suitable. I have ordered a few of these (MiniSense 100, LDTM-028K).

I’m wondering if there is a optimal way to mount these sensors to maximise vibrational transfer. At the moment I have soldered the sensor to a small PCB and have the PCB attached to the floor with adhesive tape. I’m amplifying the signal with a jfet preamp. I’m finding that footsteps around 6” from the sensor are barely registering above the noise floor.

 

Any advice on mounting these sensors, or even suggestions for other sensors that might be more suitable, would be much appreciated!

Thanks

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  • dougw
    dougw over 5 years ago +4
    Piezo sensors generate signals by bending. The larger and faster the bend, the larger the signal. If you can set it up so the sensor is a cantilever that gets slightly bent when a footstep occurs, you…
  • BigG
    BigG over 5 years ago +3
    Does the solution have to incorporate a piezoelectric sensor? What made you choose this? The key, in my opinion, is to consider wave propagation and what could cause this wave to distort or dampen to the…
  • shabaz
    shabaz over 5 years ago +3
    Hi Will, There's a photo here: Impact, Vibration and Ultrasound Sensing with PVDF Piezo Sensors where the sensor (similar to the one you've ordered I think) is slightly bent, and at a shallow angle, i…
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  • ntewinkel
    ntewinkel over 5 years ago

    Hi Will,

     

    Your project reminds me of an Arduino tutorial that uses a piezo disk to detect knocks. You can probably tune it to listen to whatever sound the footsteps on the floor might make.

    Are you just listening for any sound? or do you have to distinguish between dogs and cats and humans?

     

    Here is the tutorial:

    https://www.arduino.cc/en/tutorial/knock

     

    Oops, missed your first bit about the noise threshold - I would try mounting the piezo detector directly onto the floor itself, connecting the detection bit onto the floor itself. It seems you've already done that though... Are people stepping that softly, or is there that much of a noise level in the floor in general?

    And yes otherwise you might need something like a detection mat.

     

    Cheers,

    -Nico

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    ntewinkel over 5 years ago

    Hi Will,

     

    Your project reminds me of an Arduino tutorial that uses a piezo disk to detect knocks. You can probably tune it to listen to whatever sound the footsteps on the floor might make.

    Are you just listening for any sound? or do you have to distinguish between dogs and cats and humans?

     

    Here is the tutorial:

    https://www.arduino.cc/en/tutorial/knock

     

    Oops, missed your first bit about the noise threshold - I would try mounting the piezo detector directly onto the floor itself, connecting the detection bit onto the floor itself. It seems you've already done that though... Are people stepping that softly, or is there that much of a noise level in the floor in general?

    And yes otherwise you might need something like a detection mat.

     

    Cheers,

    -Nico

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